Traditional Naturopath Cathey Painter explains how we can use redox molecule supplementation to improve sleep, energy, blood flow, and more.
I’m joined by board certified Traditional Naturopath Cathey Painter to discuss what redox molecules are and different protocols for addressing deficiencies. In our conversation, Cathey highlights how we can use redox molecule supplementation to improve sleep, energy, blood flow, and more.
Redox signaling molecules are considered ‘messenger molecules,’ or in other words, they promote optimal cellular communication throughout the body. They work to repair damaged DNA, which is especially important in today’s world where we’re bombarded by toxins. But, what happens when our bodies slowly stop producing these molecules?
Cathey shares examples of health issues that she’s seen in her personal and professional life that have been greatly improved, if not diminished, by redox molecule supplementation. We also touch on how allergies impact longevity and a technique that retrains the nervous system to no longer experience stress by different foods or environmental factors.
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Dana Frost 00:07
Welcome to Vitally You, a podcast created to introduce you to the tools that will be your roadmap for feeling younger while growing older. I'm your host Dana Frost, a wellness expert, life coach and energy medicine practitioner. Here's what you can expect conversations about vitality from the inside out with guest experts in the field of health, culture and spirituality, and solo episodes along the way from me where I do deep dives into the topics of aging, heart intelligence, energy, medicine, and your innate capacity to heal. If you want to feel younger, while growing older, this is the place for you.
Dana Frost 00:52
Hi, everyone. Welcome to this week's episode of the Vitally You podcast. I'm Dana Frost, your host. Joining me this week is Kathy painter. Kathy is a former TV writer producer turned traditional naturopath, her lifelong interest in health took a turn when her husband was diagnosed with cancer. She spent hours every day researching and was able to facilitate his full recovery. Using natural protocols. She went back to school and became a traditional naturopath so that she could teach others how to create optimal health. Kathy is with us this week to share about the most powerful tool she has encountered in her career. I met Kathy on LinkedIn. And we immediately clicked over natural healing modalities that restore the body's ability for self healing, if it has the right elements. Now, I want to take a moment to encourage you to think about people in your life who are suffering from debilitating health conditions.
Dana Frost 01:51
I'm here to tell you every episode, they don't have to continue to suffer, that they or you or we we have to step out of the medical complex matrix into the quantum field of healing the energy system and the natural world and look beyond this conventional model that has literally held us captive for over 100 years. It's not secret that we are not getting healthier under our current model. We are getting sicker. And we need to take a serious look at why. Now I'm excited about today's conversation because lives are literally being upgraded. And people are healing using this powerful discovery that Kathy will introduce us to today. So please people take note of these episodes, where I introduce you to new healing modalities. Because these modalities could be the life changing piece of a puzzle for people with chronic health conditions, pain and suffering. I want you to think about people who need these alternative modalities and share them. The way that these modalities get known is by people like you and me sharing them with those who need them. So please join me this week and welcoming our guests, Kathy painter.
Dana Frost 03:13
So Kathy, welcome to the show. I'm really happy to have you here.
Cathey Painter 03:17
Great, great to be here. Great to be here. You and I have a lot of common a lot in common. We love helping people.
Dana Frost 03:23
Yeah, we do. And it's so you know, this is the beauty of social media we met on LinkedIn.
Cathey Painter 03:29
That's right. That's right. I'm always you know, I want to get the word out. And I just let it naturally happen. You know, I seem to attract people that are open to receiving this information, which is great.
Dana Frost 03:41
Yeah. So Kathy, I would love for you to share. How is it that you? You know, this is a second career for you being a naturopathic doctor as a second career. Could you tell us how you came to be a naturopathic doctor?
Cathey Painter 03:55
Sure. My first career was in television, I was a producer, writer. And but I grew up in a household where my mother was very ahead of our time, health wise, and my children were small. And we got the diagnosis that nobody ever, ever wants to receive. My husband had cancer. And I did a deep dive on research. I wanted to know, all of the best ways we can help him get well. And he was going to do surgery. And just for those of you that are curious, it was prostate cancer and all the doctors said, Oh, you need to do surgery, you need to get your prostate taken out. But luckily for us, there was a three month backlog. And so surgery wasn't scheduled for three months out and I said, You know what, we're not going to sit around and do nothing. I'm going to research this, and we're going to do some protocols. Well, I found a clinic in Santa Barbara that we went to the SOS clinic.
Cathey Painter 04:50
We did a three week stent there all of the detoxing and the IVs and things and then from there, you know, we changed our diet. We did a lot of different protocols and Luckily, by the time that three month mark rolled around, we did some testing and there was no longer cancer detectable. And so after that, of course, the word got out, everybody was calling me, can you help me? Can you help me and of course, I'm always open to sharing this information. I never ever want anybody to have to spend the amount of time I mean, I was researching five and six hours a day. And so then one day, one of my friends who's a chiropractor came to me, she said, Kathy, you're already helping so many people, it's time for you to get a credential. And that's when I went back to school and became a traditional naturopath. Now, let me clarify, I'm not a medical doctor, as a traditional naturopath, we look at the health of the entire body, we work on creating optimal health, when you create optimal health, then your immune system can do what it was designed to do.
Cathey Painter 05:57
Well, that that is the outcome that so many people would love to have, Kathy? Absolutely. And, you know, I, I do want to share one of the things that we learned in naturopathic school. And it's just so true. There are two reasons for any kind of chronic health issue or life threatening issue. And you can have one or both. One is deficiencies. Are you deficient in vitamins, minerals, nutrients? And now we know, are you deficient in redox molecules, which we'll talk a little bit about. And then the other is toxicity. Are you toxic. And I will tell you, if you are not gently detoxing every day, you are accumulating toxins, and that leads to dis ease. You know, both of those things lead to dis ease. And but they're both correctable you can do something about it, which is just, it gives everybody hope, when they understand that you can do something about both of these issues. And that's also where I come in with my clients. You know, they're they're all working with medical doctors, and that's a great thing. But medical doctors have not been trained in dealing with deficiencies and dealing with toxicities.
Dana Frost 07:16
Yeah, I think that the point that we really bonded over was this idea of hope that there's so much that we can do to bring the body back into homeostasis. And so when you talk about deficiencies, let's just look at that for a second. What are some of the signs that people should be thinking about?
Cathey Painter 07:38
Well, I go through a checklist, you know, when I see somebody, either on Zoom or face to face, I go through a checklist. Number one, I want people to look at their fingernails, these three fingernails should have moons on them, if they do not or if they are diminishing. This tells me that they have a deficiency in oxygen in their body, their circulation is not optimal. I look at their tongue, do they have a deep line down the middle of the tongue? That is a sign of digestion issues. And if you're not digesting your food properly, you are not implementing your nutrients. And then I asked questions that you know could identify allergies. You know, most people think that oh, allergies can't be dealt with or, or food sensitivities. But I always recommend an Obama prods Allergy Elimination Technique. It's a technique a 30 year old technique that retrains the nervous system. So it is no longer stressed by different foods or things in the environment, you can literally do that. But that's not well known. Oh,
Dana Frost 08:47
I've never heard of that. Do you mind telling us a little bit about that?
Cathey Painter 08:50
Well, it's it's a technique. In the clinic that I work in. We do this for every new client, we do a Xibo test where the body through through a metal it looks like a metal hand, the body is fed or exposed to 475 Different frequencies that represent food. You know, there's there's no argument with scientist everything in this universe has a unique identifying frequency. And then this machine measures the response to that item. And what's interesting is you could have a stressor, let's say carrots, carrots could stretch your body out, but you can eat those carrots on a Monday and not have a side effect until Wednesday and the side effect might just be a little fatigue or headache. So you would never put the two together. And so once we look at your results, which I will tell you people are astounded out of 475 items most of the time I see people stressed out by at least 250 or more of those items.
Cathey Painter 09:57
And remember, you know every item that stresses Your body out creates inflammation, and also hinders the assimilation of the nutrients in that food. And so over time, inflammation leads to disease, deficiencies in nutrients leads to dis dis ease. But Dr and abama, prod, who was an acupuncturist, I mean, she's still alive, she discovered that you can retrain the nervous system. And it's a technique, you know, one of the first techniques they use is they expose your body to all those frequencies, again, at the same time, they're shining a light to your ear. Now remember, when babies suck their thumb, or drink a bottle, they like to massage their ear, why? There's 1000 nerve endings in that ear. And when you massage it, or you shine a light, you release the feel good hormones called endorphins.
Cathey Painter 10:52
Now, at the time you're being exposed to these frequencies, the best way to describe it is for each item, there's a file folder in your brain. And those file folders are opened. And the brain is reading saying, wait a minute, this item is classified as dangerous, but I'm releasing the feel good hormones, endorphins, this can't be right. And so what reclassifies it and then the file folders all fold up and 10 days, when you do that treatment five times to retrain the brain. And then there's another type of treatment that you do based on the categories of food. So after you're done with it, your body no longer is stressed out by these items. Look, I have seen people with severe allergies, overcome them with this treatment and go on to living a normal life. And I highly recommend this treatment for everybody as preventative. Everybody has a body out. So that's that's one of the things that utilize
Dana Frost 11:58
that Kathy can look at that, because I find it really fascinated by it. And I'll go I'll go look it up after after this podcast. But so do you find that the let's say like, I'll just say for me, I had I, in the past, I had very strong reactions to gluten. And I did a lot I avoided it and did a lot of cleanup. You know, restorative work for my gut for my gut health. And now I can occasionally have gluten what I do know this is exactly what you said I don't I have no digestive distress. If gluten. And I really that's like if I'm out and about and you know, if it's just in my home, I never have it. But what I will notice is one to two to three to four days later, I do get swollen, my fate is puffy. So really, I can make that connection quite easily from my own experience. So after someone has gone through this in a shortened period of time, because it took me a long time to do cleanup, after someone has gone through this, and they're exposed to the food, do they find they don't have symptoms anymore? Because they're
Cathey Painter 13:15
absolutely, but let me let me clarify something with gluten. You know, first of all, you know, the wheat we grow in this country has been re bred to have a strong amount of gluten. The other thing is, you know, a lot of people believe they have a gluten intolerance. But what's really going on is Glice of fate. I know you know that. And no matter what, even if your body accepts the guise of Glice of fate better, we don't want Glice of fate in our body, because it blocks the chicken shikimate pathway of our gut microbes. And we don't want that, you know, so that's kind of like a, you know, it's just, it's just very interesting. It's very,
Dana Frost 14:01
it's another layer to the conversation. And, you know, it's it's a but it's an important point of conversation, Kathy, because those of us who want to, you know, really tend to our inner terrain for our own health and our immunity. People will say, Oh, well, is it an allergy? You know, is it you know, is it life threatening? And if it's not, then it's no big deal. And, and I think that there's this education piece that needs to be done that, as you say, for all of us, everyone living in North America actually would be wise to be concerned about exposures to Glice of fate because it down regulates your immunity. It's you know, it has a lot of issues in the gut, as you said. So I'm glad that we're on that. I think that's an important thing. And thank you for sharing. How do you say this process that?
Cathey Painter 14:53
Well, it's it's called you can look up N as in Nancy, A, E T. IE, you'll find a whole website on it, you'll find a whole website on it and you know, I will say if you live in Southern California, look up shorts wellness in Redlands. They have a whole this is where I, I, I work in the clinic there, but they have a whole group of practitioners that do this and they are so well trained and they get amazing results. So Schwartz wellness. in Redlands. Okay, you're looking for that.
Dana Frost 15:33
Okay, so I want us to move on two deficiencies. And actually the specific deficiency that I'm learning more about from you, Kathy, the redox molecules. So this is actually why I wanted to have you on the podcast because you brought forward something that I had never heard about. And, you know, I think it's something that would, you know, is interesting for people to learn about. So, could you tell us about the redox molecules and why we might be deficient and why we want to care about them?
Cathey Painter 16:06
Sure. One of the reasons that I do a webinar twice a week on this is because most people don't know about it. And it's, it's crucial. And we know that medical breakthroughs are slow to make it into mainstream. So just a little background in the ad, scientists discovered redox molecules, but they didn't know what they do. They couldn't figure out, you know, what do they do in the body? Well, in the 90s, when technology improved, two scientists discovered what these molecules do in the body, and they actually won the Nobel Prize. So redox molecules, every cell in your body manufactures redox molecules that are then used for something called redox. cellular signaling, this is how our cells communicate, okay?
Cathey Painter 16:55
Now, when your cellular communication is optimal, then the moment a toxin comes into the body, the moment a cell with damaged DNA shows up, the cells communicate this, and then the immune system gets the message and goes and takes care of the issue. It will eradicate the toxin, it will take the cell with damage DNA, and either repair it or eradicate it. Now we're living in a world right now. We're we're bombarded by toxins, and people are accumulating toxins. And if cells were damaged DNA are not repaired or eradicated. They replicate with damaged DNA. And that is a very, very bad cell issue that is one of the most frightening, feared, This eases in our country today. And so what happens is just the natural process of living every decade, our cells, the production of these molecules declined by 10%, then you add in toxins and stress that declines our body's production of that even further.
Cathey Painter 18:10
So if you are, you know, in your 40s, you are a minimum of 30% deficient in these redox molecules. And then you know, 40s 50s 60s, you're, you're very deficient. And so the beautiful thing is, there are there were some scientists discovered how to create these redox molecules that your body naturally produces, and create them so that they are stabilized outside of the body so that you can put them back into the body. Now, here's another interesting thing. The National Institute of Health studied redox molecules for 17 years, they spent millions of dollars researching, they brought in scientists from all over the world. And in fact, to this day, there is a World Congress on redox molecules every two years. But because what one of the things that the National Institute of Health discovered, was it redox molecules regulate every single system in the body.
Cathey Painter 19:18
They also penetrate the blood brain barrier and help improve any mental or brain issue that you could possibly name but the National Institutes of Health never discovered, as hard as they worked as millions of dollars as they poured into it. They did not figure out how to create these molecules in a way that were stabilized outside of the body. But the company that I work with, they did figure this out. They are the only company in the world that figured this out. There's multiple multiple patents, and I will tell you that this has been the single greatest, most power Our full tool in my naturopath business why? Well, any health issue that you can name improves when you improve that cellular communication.
Dana Frost 20:14
Wow. Yeah. So you get it, it passes the brain barrier. So when we're talking about neurological diseases, do you see improvement with Parkinson's, Alzheimer's? Well,
Cathey Painter 20:28
let me just let me just say this, legally, these redox molecules are not a drug, they are a supplement. So we are not legally able to name any disease. But I will tell you, anything you can name, if your cells are involved, it will be improved. And any health issue your cells are involved in. The other thing is physical accidents. I mean, you know, there's damage to the cells. And so we've seen, I mean, we've seen people with brain injury from car accidents that were told by the medical system, well, this is all we can do. There's a beautiful girl named Danielle Matthews, whose life was just, I mean, her life was saved. But she said, My brain was so injured, I could not even get out of bed, I couldn't, I couldn't hold a job because I couldn't focus. And then she was introduced to these molecules.
Cathey Painter 21:26
And that was the missing link that helped her make a full recovery. And that's, that's what we're seeing for a lot of people. Supplementing with redox molecules is the missing link. Because you can do everything right, you can eat the greatest food, the super foods, the supplements, that if your cellular communication is not a optimal, the immune system, not able to fully utilize those items, those things. And so I'll just tell you, for me, my my situation, I had a terrible issue where acid was coming up in my throat. Now I used all my naturopath oils, and nothing was working. And to be honest, it was embarrassing. And so I knew it could be a life threatening issue.
Cathey Painter 22:18
So I broke down and I went to the top gastroenterologist in Beverly Hills, I did all the testing, I did all the pharmaceutical drugs and nothing helped. And then about a year later, I found out about these molecules, and I started drinking them. And two and a half weeks in, I had an aha moment I realized I no longer was having that issue of acid coming up in my throat. And that's when I realized this was the missing link from me. I was doing everything possible. everything right. But because my cells were not communicating my immune system was not able to completely get the message and, and take care of this issue. So that's when I knew I knew without a doubt, wow, this is, you know, I read all the reports. But when you experience it yourself, you go wow. And then of course, in my practice, I've just seen mind blowing things. And then I've seen just help with everyday issues.
Cathey Painter 23:22
But you know, one of the things I teach as as a naturopath is, it is always always better. It's always more cost effective, to prevent to focus on prevention. And we have some pretty amazing things that we've seen with with how this helps prevent. And of course, if you're into anti aging, there's nothing more anti aging than these molecules, nothing. It's just incredible. So
Dana Frost 23:52
Wow. So what are you when we you know, we talk about longevity? What are some of the things that you're seeing? Or you know, are you seeing seeing it on the skin? In terms of performance, fatigue, brain health? What are some of the things that you're seeing when it comes to longevity?
Cathey Painter 24:10
Well, first off, a lot of people go, Wow, I'm sleeping better. I didn't even realize you know that I had a sleeping issue, but man, I'm sleeping so much better. I've had people call me up and go Kathy, is this just a placebo effect? I even have more energy just after a couple of days. But no, it's it's just amazing. When you replenish, you know, redox molecules, everything works better and your energy increases, your focus can increase your digestion and in fact, there was a double blind PLACEBO study done. And it showed that there was a 21 to 31% improvement in 100% of the people that drink the molecules in five V vital areas of health and it was the immune system, the inflammation pathway.
Cathey Painter 25:06
So hormone modulation, cardiovascular, and digestive. I mean, when you think about those five areas of health, and you improve them by a minimum of 20 to 31%, you can understand how this is so preventative. So preventative, and then when you apply the redox molecules to your face, we have a gel along with what you drink, there is a gel. And you know, I understand why people are seeing incredible results when they apply it topically, it's been clinically proven to after one application, improve the blood flow to your skin by 49%. Well, that nourishes your skin nourishment slows down the aging process. And then that also oxygenates the skin. You hear all the time about people going to get oxygen facials, right? Yes, well, I mean, every time you apply this gel to your skin, it's like getting an oxygen facial.
Dana Frost 26:10
Well, that the all of this is just very exciting to me, which is why I really wanted to have you on the podcast as soon as possible. I think that one of the most interesting things that really catches my attention is what you said about your own story that you were having acid flow up. And when we're thinking about our health, we always want to start with our gut health and with the digestive health. And so I think that that's just a really significant outcome for you.
Cathey Painter 26:40
It is and you know, one of the things I do, I do like to talk about a little bit, because I see it in my practice all the time, is, you know, we get a lot of people that have been injured by the experimental vaccine that came out in the last two years and, and one of the things we see is that it really wrecks their digestion, and they need all the help they can get repairing. And of course, you know, I always tell people, I don't care what is you have never put all your eggs in one basket. The redox molecules is one piece, you need to look at your nutrition, you need to look at your lifestyle, your exercise, your sleep habits, and your emotional habits. All of that comes into play.
Cathey Painter 27:21
But I've seen you know, when we add in the molecules, it really helps facilitate the healing. And one other thing that I want to point out, that is just so important. You know, Dr. Stephanie sin off, she's a senior research scientist at MIT, she and her team did a deep dive research on the COVID vaccines. And one of the disturbing things that they found was that the vaccine greatly suppresses the interferon AB pathway. Now, this is your pathway that antiviral and anti tumour pathway. So you know, you know, when when that pathway suppressed, you're going to be more susceptible to viruses, and tumors. And so this is another way that I can help people. And the other thing is, I get a lot of people now that come to me and go, I've got buyer's remorse. Now that all this information is coming out, what can I do? Well, this is one simple protocol that they can add in.
Cathey Painter 28:29
And we know it will turn back on those pathways, we know it will help with the digestion. Now, here's another thing that I want to point out. You know, I always say if you're not gently detoxing every day, you are accumulating toxins. And another important aspect of these molecules that really caught my attention was studies show that when you consume these molecules, it improves the the efficacy in your body of glutathione by 800%, and super oxide dismutase by 500%. Well, those really help you deal with detoxing, which again, is great for people with buyer's remorse, also great for people that want to just be super healthy. And then the superoxide dismutase is really a powerful antioxidant. So yeah, there's there's help for everything. And if you have buyer's remorse, there's many things that you can do to neutralize anything lurking in your body.
Dana Frost 29:34
Yeah, we know that the body craves homeostasis, it wants to meet itself back to a homeostasis state. And I think that the framework of these molecules, it's something that you intrinsically your body intrinsically makes right? And so the body recognizes them. This is why it's not a pharmaceutical. This is why it's considered a supplement because it's something that your body makes So your body, I say, if it comes from nature, your body already recognizes it, so your body recognizes it. And it's just going to be supportive of bringing you back to homeostasis on so many different levels. It's really, really exciting. What a wonderful opportunity for people to support themselves.
Cathey Painter 30:19
Well, um, one thing I do like to point out is when you supplement with the redox molecules, it does not interfere or interact with any medical procedure, medical, medication, you know, pharmaceutical, or over the calendar, or supplement. And the other thing that's really amazing, they did what's called an LD 50 test, when a drug comes to market, and to get one of the things they have to do to get FDA approval, they have to do a lethal dose 50 test. And what this is, they take rats or whatever animal they're taking, and they give the animals enough so that 50% of them die, and that's considered the lethal dose 50. Well, they did the same test with ASEA, the the redox molecules, they could never reach an amount that caused any animal to die.
Cathey Painter 31:19
Why? You can't see, I mean, you can't even say that about water, you know, you can drink so much water at once you reach a lethal dose. But that's also just something that I love about this and using it in my practice. And then of course, you know, like I said, I'm doing these free webinars for anybody that would like to come and learn more about this. I really, truly, after what I've witnessed in the last year and a half, in my practice, I truly have a passion. And I feel a moral obligation to educate anyone who's interested in learning about this. And so that's why I do that.
Dana Frost 31:59
Yeah, that is so wonderful, Kathy. So we'll be sure to include all of this information where people can find you where they can learn more about the redox molecules in the show notes. So we're wrapping up our time together. And I'm going to ask you the question I asked all of my guests, what does feeling younger, while growing older mean to you?
Cathey Painter 32:18
Well, feeling younger, while growing, growing older means that I can look good, feel good, and I can live life to the fullest to the very end. And I think, really in the end, that's what we're all looking for.
Dana Frost 32:34
That's really beautiful. Thank you so much, Kathy for being a guest this week. It's a pleasure. Thank you for joining me this week on the vital you podcast. Now. I will be hitting one of my travel dreams this week. And you can follow me on Instagram for updates from Bali, where I will be in retreat with Vanessa Taylor for a deep dive into the divine feminine. If you are joining these podcast, please hit subscribe and share your favorite episodes with anyone who could benefit and make my heart sing by leaving a review. It's been a while since I've had a review. So one of you listeners who haven't left a review yet please leave a review. And as always, I am streaming love from my heart to yours