Victor Sagalovsky and I discuss how deuterium-depleted water is aging the world.
Humans are so full of water that we are like a walking ocean, but did you know that the water inside of us may be prematurely aging us too? Victor explains that this is because deuterium, a heavier form of hydrogen that has been proven to shorten lifespans, is found in most water. After researching deuterium’s effects for decades and visiting communities where people drinking water without deuterium enjoyed a longer lifespan, Victor concludes that deuterium is key to aging and should even be classified as a disease.
Those in the blue zone may encounter less deuterium, but it’s their daily longevity habits that supercharge their ability to ward off its effects. Because they feel safe, not stressed, and have a strong sense of belonging, their parasympathetic nervous system tends to be more activated. Victor offers fascinating insights into quantum entanglement, water as a universal consciousness, and the intelligence of this amazing substance. He sheds light on deuterium’s origin and how it came to play the role on earth that it does today. If you’re interested in naturally boosting your energy levels, don’t miss this episode.
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Victor Sagalovsky 00:00
If you feel youthful, it's probably you are some things you can't fake, maybe a professional actor with makeup. But if you feel good, you feel youthful. You feel like you get up in the morning and you're like, ready to seize the day. Guess what? You're good, you're fine. And if you know how to address your injuries and how to heal, and you're youthful and having energy on reserve, and our youth will do crazy things, and we feel so emboldened and invincible and immortal because we have this energy on reserve. And so as we get older, we get more cautious of things we do, because we don't have that same energy on reserve. But if you get that when you're older, you have that feel good, like you got energy like for days on reserve, then you'll have that youthful mindset again, like anything is possible.
Dana Frost 00:49
Hi everyone. I'm Dana frost your host, and welcome to the vitally you podcast. If you want to feel younger while growing older, this is the place for you. Expect conversations about vitality from the inside out, set yourself free to experience your emotions and body as trusted guides and discover how to optimize your energy. Join me and together, we will alchemize your history to empower you to design the future you desire. Now if you're new to the podcast, please subscribe on Apple podcast Spotify, or your favorite podcast platform. In today's episode, we are talking about deuterium depleted water. Okay, let me say that one more time. We are talking about deuterium depleted water. If you're like me, you probably don't know what that is well, I quickly learned that I needed to know about this isotope of hydrogen that makes our water heavy and weighs down our human causing advanced aging. Super, super fascinating. My guest today, Victor sagalovsky, is going to share everything you need to know, but first, I want to invite you to the ultimate wellness event in Miami, September 28 and the 29th you are going to have the opportunity to explore the latest in biohacking technologies and learn from a powerhouse lineup of speakers, leading scientists, doctors and innovators in health tech and biotech. I'm actually going to be there with a lifewave booth, and I will also be a speaker on a panel. I really don't want you to miss this opportunity to spend a weekend embarking on a holistic journey, pursuing optimal health in the luxurious fienna hotel and Wellness Center on Miami Beach. It is absolutely exquisite. Now, if you want to meet outstanding humans, you have to attend these wellness and biohacking events. And today's guest, Victor will be a speaker. I can tell you that I plan on stocking up on deuterium depleted water at Victor's Light Water booth. Now I want to draw your attention to another sponsor of this wellness event. Is Leela quantum tech. I will put the link to the podcast episode where I hosted the founder and CEO, Philip. He's also going to be a speaker. He's going to be showcasing the Leela quantum tech infinity block. I have one in my home in Chicago. Really interesting technology that is tapping into the quantum field so that toxins are cleared, so that the food and the water that you're enjoying is also nourishing and nutritious that really supports your vitality and your health these new technologies. Seriously, you really do need to attend a wellness event, a biohacking wellness event, to understand the amount of technology that has been created for our modern human. I have a special promo code. It's Dana, D, A, N, A you can get your ticket. There will be a link in the show notes, and you will have an exclusive discount. So let's get into today's episode where Victor and I share our interest in the living properties of water, and we have a surprise chat about alien life. You're definitely going to need to strap yourself in and get ready for today's episode. Victor sagalovsky Is the co founder and CEO of light water. Scientific the first and only super deuterium depleted light water. He has dedicated himself to the research development and production of this rare water. Victor has researched and studied the benefits of deuterium depleted water through his theory, endogenous radiation damage theory of aging, it proposes that our biggest obstacle to longevity is the excess deuterium and other damaging isotopes on the planet, and proper mitigation will radically extend our lifespans. This conversation was. Just really illuminating and inspiring for me. So thank you for joining us this week. Hi, Victor. Welcome to the Vitaly you podcast.
Victor Sagalovsky 05:08
Hi, happy to be here.
Dana Frost 05:10
So Victor, this is a conversation. Honestly, it wasn't on my radar. I didn't know what deuterium is. I had never heard of it before, and our mutual friend in the wellness industry introduced us, and I know both of us are going to be at her wellness event in Miami. And after we talked, just so I could get a basic understanding, and then I listened to some podcast, I was just super, super curious, and my first question I have for you is, how long have you been studying deuterium? How did you discover it? Learn about it like what journey took you to this very dialed in aspect of what's in water?
Victor Sagalovsky 05:55
Well, really trying to understand water and water that's inside of our bodies, and as you dive deeper into the science of that, a whole different truth is revealed to you than just what's at the surface, right? Being a health seeker my entire life, water had the most allure for me in terms of what is that thing that we're seeking? More Life, more youth, more health, fountain of youth. These are strong archetypes in our history, and we understand something's going on, but we don't have all the clues. Deuterium is very interesting, because as I started learning about isotopes, I started learning that things are not what they seem. For example, if you have a glass of water, you look at it and yes, you're taught in school, H 2o say, okay, H 2o waters, H 2o H 2o H 2o so, but if you have a glass of water, in this glass of water, it's not all H 2o Now, other than the chemicals and whatever minerals and metals and you know, other molecules that could be in there, if you strip that all down, you think you'd just be left with water. But in fact, you find out that there are two, and actually more than two types of water. And that H 2o that we think is in the glass is mostly 99.9% but let's say three drops in every glass is not H 2o and what that is is what we call H do, or H O D, and that D stands for deuterium, so it's a heavier form of hydrogen and oxygen doesn't discriminate, so it also grabs the heavier form of hydrogen. But as our bodies run on hydrogen, and every time a deuterium comes in, it causes havoc, we have developed very complex systems, mechanisms within our bodies, within our biology, to keep this deuterium out. So when you study the water inside the cell, the metabolic water. Actually, inside the mitochondria, there's three or more types of water, as they get closer into where the energy is produced. So you look at that water, and if you ask the right questions, well, the right question is, what is the deuterium level of this water? And it's significantly lower. It's like 60% lower than what we drink. This really fascinated me, because I'm looking at interventions that are foundational, because those are the ones that have staying power, those are the ones that can really move the needle. Because, I mean, what really does move the needle? That's a big clue that the metabolic water is deteriorating depleted. So that's why I got interested in it, and certainly through everything I read in its research in the 50s and finding out about people in remote areas, mountains, northern climates, that were having a shockingly, comparatively longer lifespan. Fascinating research, because it's safe. Wow. How are these people living longer? What are they doing? And before there was any thought about deuterium in the water, even though they knew it existed, it was a big aha moment when they realized what they all have in common is that they have the water that they're drinking is 16 to 20% lower in deuterium. And then this century, the 21st century, this new science, or new branch of biochemistry, known as deutenomics. It's very early, but it's going to send shockwaves through science as we know it, because now we're looking at things, not at the molecular level. We're looking at the quantum level. We're going deeper, right? And as we're going deeper, we're seeing real, hidden truths that are being revealed about our biology. So in due to nomics, it shows us that our ideal in our bodies, the deterioration level should be about 20% lower. Now we can go into why that is how we got to this place. But, you know, I wanted to do something about this because I wanted to drink DDW, and there was no way I was gonna get any for myself unless I started a company. You know, that was really where I was at. Okay,
Dana Frost 09:40
wait, I need to pause here. I just have a question. You wanted to drink water with more deuterium?
Victor Sagalovsky 09:44
No? Deterior depleted water. DD, W, dd, deterior depleted water, okay? Because the science just it just made sense to me. It was like a big it was like a big aha, even though I saw that, it was overlooked. That didn't bother me, because I had seen other things. Things earlier, when I was younger, that were overlooked. I go, Oh, wow, look at this. This is overlooked. And later, everybody jumped to it and said, This is big. So I knew, and I had, you know, I knew a diamond in the rough, so to speak, in terms of an intervention for health span, for lifespan, just vitality, levity, and that has to do with water, because where I started with water. Was going to different water sources, different springs all around the world, mostly in Hawaii, and getting a different sense, getting a different feeling, getting a different kind of, you know, you sit with it, you meditate with the water. And not only that, I love science. I'd always carry my instruments with me. Test, the pH test, the orb test, to dissolve solids, test, whatever I could, right, send it to the lab. But what? How does the water make you feel? And Victor Schauberger was a great water researcher. Did an amazing test. You know, he started off as a you know about Victor Schauberger? If people don't know about him, you should
Dana Frost 10:55
look I know Massimo a moto. This works. This is way, way earlier.
Victor Sagalovsky 10:59
Schauberger is the one that's responsible for revealing that water vortexes, right. Okay, so he was a naturalist in Austria, and because he observed how water works, he eventually was able to build a UFO. So this is you can get a lot of information from water, but an interesting test he did, and that I did myself, is you could put yourself on a scale and a good scale, and you could drink a liter of water that is one kilo, 2.2 pounds, okay? And if it's just bulk water, is the tap city, whatever is dead water, okay, you're going to see that scale move up a little bit. And wait because you got a glass of water. You drink it. So if you drink spring water from the rock, okay, there's something magical about it, because your weight doesn't change. What happens? Does your body automatically break it up into hydro and oxygen? What is? What's happening there? I noticed that some water when I was younger, you know, in my teens, some water make you feel heavy. Some wouldn't even make it to your stomach, and what made you feel heavy was this stuff at home, the tap water. And when you went camping and you there was a spring or, you know, my parents love getting spring water, bring the jugs, they taste this, wow. This doesn't make me feel heavy. Not all water is the same. So that's the first question is, what is water? Why is it not the same? And then decades later, you start asking, what is the right water for the body based on the water that the body makes? Because the ocean that we're floating in, that our mitochondria is floating in, it's nothing that we drank. We won't take that in. We have to synthesize it ourselves.
Dana Frost 12:36
That's a really important part.
Victor Sagalovsky 12:37
Yeah, it is. I'm
Dana Frost 12:38
just like thinking for the listeners, where are the nuggets of things? So I really hold on to and we talk a lot about we're 80% whatever percent water, above 6070, 80% water.
Victor Sagalovsky 12:55
Let me interrupt you there for a second, because we're taught that we're 75% water, yeah, if you look at my by molecular weight, meaning every molecule that's attached to a water, you see that they we are, think 98.9% water. We're almost 99% water by molecular weight. If you really weigh us molecular you see we are water. And so we want to understand how it moves through us, and what the requirements as we get a more nuanced, more subtle, more detailed understanding into all other aspects of human biology and chemistry and the material sciences, going within and understanding how we work. I don't know if we're close or if we're far from cracking this extending, radical human lifespan, but I feel that of a practical benefit health span, that the amount of energy that we cultivate when you reduce the amount of deuterium in your body, what happens is you, not only you're saving energy, there's a net energy benefit. You're protecting your biology, right? I'm not going to get in technical terms, but it's a insurance policy, because there's less repair that needs to happen. So when repair does have which is happening all the time, in sense of replication, but when there's repair from injury, you notice that when your term depleted age is like this, it's like for some for most people, that I observed as being an armchair gerontologist, things like this, you know, and with the promise of longer health span for your mitochondria, the mind is willing, but the body is weak, as they say. So as we find out the things that preserve our energy, that's what gets me so excited, because we found one of them, and that's deuterium depletion. I wanted to drink this water really badly, so that's why I started the company, yeah,
Dana Frost 14:41
going in a little bit deeper, because I have talked about the mitochondria on the podcast. I think people are familiar with the mitochondria being, in essence, the fuel for the cell, for the body, for the energy. And I heard you talk a little bit about that on. On another podcast, Victor. And I thought it was really interesting. There's water in the mitochondria.
Victor Sagalovsky 15:06
We're a walking ocean, so everything is swimming in there. But
Dana Frost 15:10
there was a differentiation between the water in the mitochondria. And exactly you mentioned, there are three different kinds of water in the body, you have your bulk water, which
Victor Sagalovsky 15:22
is basically a very small percentage of the water on the planet is drinkable. So that's basically the bulk water that we can drink. And then there's this water that shuttles things into and out of cells. And then there's that metabolic water deep inside of mitochondria. As you get closer to mitochondria, you have less deuterium in that water. Why? Because the mitochondria is trying to prevent deuterium from entering its energy production pathway. It's like an elephant in a China shop. You want to keep it out, and the body knows this. That
Dana Frost 15:53
leads me to be curious, is it possible that deuterium gets into the mitochondria? Oh, it does constantly, okay? And so does that cause breakdown? Like, is that where we would actually see disease? Well,
Victor Sagalovsky 16:07
that's what's happening. Disease is a function of energy, right? It all can come down to one thing, and that's energy. Yeah, you have the energy to heal and repair, you will and information, because you need energy to transmit information.
Dana Frost 16:19
And so would you say across the board, is deuterium, one of the keys, like depleting deuterium, is that one of the keys? It's a key to aging. It's one of the keys, okay, it's
Victor Sagalovsky 16:32
one of the main keys that I found. And I've been studying this for ever since I was a kid, just because I've been fascinated with aging, you know, and seeing people through the process something that we that we just take for granted because we can't, we don't have any way to change it. So it's just a natural part of life. It's very interesting to me, because we ignore it in a way, and yet, if you classify it as a disease, then it shouldn't be ignored. Because now we know through all the diagnostics that some people age slower, some people age faster. That has a lot to do with lifestyle. Has a lot to do with stress, food, diet, genetics, all of it. All these things can be changed, if one wants to. I mean, not everything, obviously, if you imagine that everything in your body is running on hydrogen, okay? And hydrogen is the fuel, because it's the simplest element in nature. It doesn't have a neutron. It's very happy, very wild, very free. Doesn't nothing. It's only a proton and electron, and so it can do what's known as quantum tunnel like, did you know that we have to break the laws of physics to exist? That's one that everybody should know.
Dana Frost 17:34
I could imagine that, like when you say it, it does make sense to me,
Victor Sagalovsky 17:38
because at that quantum level, at that atomic level of that proton, and particles smaller, the proteom, the hydrogen, without the neutron, the hydrogen, all the hydrogen that's not deuterium. Quantum tunneling means it appears two places at once. So it's teleporting. A genie twitches its nose and then appears somewhere else. And we can't explain it, but we do know if our bodies didn't do that, and everything in nature, does it, we know that if we didn't do that, there would be no life. So the very laws of physics that we believe, we break them in order to exist. So deuterium has a neutron. It's just that hydrogen, but with an extra neutron. So it's everything it touches. It's slower, everything. It's slower, it's heavier, it's weaker because of that, and it takes the place of hydrogens, and when it takes the place of hydrogen, that's when the problems occur, because it's twice the size. So like our DNA is made up of hydrogens, we have one deuterium for every 300 base pairs. Doesn't seem like a lot, but if you have, if you start having accumulation more than that, what happens DNA is a perfect double helix has to have the exact geometry for its replication to make a copy of itself. Well, if something's a little heavier, it distorts the shape of that and that's everywhere, upstream and downstream, not much downstream of DNA. But still, when it distorts the shape, it doesn't replicate properly. When you have something entering ATP synthase nanomotor, this motor creates the ATP energy in our bodies. When you have a deuteron deuterium, enter that motor instead of a proton. It doesn't fit, like I said, an elephant walking through a china shop. Just breaks everything. It's like trying to get a person that's twice the size of a door through the door. And this happens like every seven nine seconds or so, pudding, pudding, pudding, pudding. So that motor stutters constantly. It's like everything's going good stutter. Everything's going good stutter. And in that stutter, you have a lot of shaking at that nano level. What happens is eventually your body can't repair and that mitochondria shuts down because that proton leakage in the membrane. Eventually that factory shuts down and they don't reopen. So when we're 60, we have that cell that's been replicating. If you compare that cell when we were 1215, you probably have 70, 80% less mitochondria in there. Why? Well, we think it's deuterium. Among other things. But we think it's deuterium. It's really destroying us from day one. Like I said, we have these complex processes to try to manage it. We get overrun very quickly. People that live in areas that have naturally less deuterium, they have slightly longer lifespan, they're healthier. Women give birth into a much later period of life, and then the Western world, you know, in their 50s, even naturally. So why? It's a function of deuterium. This is the theory. There's proof in here. Because when you look at the motor that I'm talking about that makes the energy, you can prove that that's happening because it's a mechanical problem. It's like getting sand in your in your sprocket. You know, it's a problem. It's a mechanical problem. That's the one I was most interested in addressing. For me personally, as I got older, I'm like, I need to tear depleted water, but really into health, and that's like, the next step. And so I one, I found out how difficult it is to make over 10 years of trying and and two, I was fortunate. I was born in the Soviet Union. I speak Russian. I went over there. I met all the heavy people that were really into this, into the science, into the production of it, into like, no, no, not as not a trivial thing. You know, you don't just go pray over it. It's done. This is like massive industrial scale process, because you're removing one type of water from another type of water. It's very difficult.
Dana Frost 21:17
Do you have that process in the United States somewhere?
Victor Sagalovsky 21:20
We're building a factory here. We're in the process of and so
Dana Frost 21:23
at this point, the deuterium light water, the water that you sell, that's deuterium depleted. Where is that? Is that manufactured in Russia?
Victor Sagalovsky 21:33
We were plant there. Yeah,
Dana Frost 21:35
wow. And so it comes all the way, comes
Victor Sagalovsky 21:37
all the way here. Yeah. There are four companies in the world, I believe four, maybe five, but four, but they can do this. They can create deuterium in water.
Dana Frost 21:46
So have you looked at the correlations between the blue zones in the world and the deuterium levels in the Blue Zones?
Victor Sagalovsky 21:55
There is some overlap, but there isn't any. When you look at people that live on islands, you know, because in the ocean, their deterrent level would naturally be higher because they're it's going to be about what the environment you live in. So if you live on an island, the ocean is 155 you'll probably be 150 but what you see in those blue zones is people eating fat on islands. Okay, so fatty diet, or a keto adapted or a fat rich diet is going to help reduce deuterium in the body, because fat is naturally deuterium depleted. So there's that. Yeah, the Blue Zones. I haven't studied it enough, but it's like I said, there's some overlap.
Dana Frost 22:35
Yeah, well, there are different factors that they different similarities or commonalities in the blue zones that are related to high fat diet, community is one. I mean, some of the commonalities are deeply related to lifestyle and being a part of a community. And even when it comes to alcohol, it's like they're not alcohol free, but they don't over drink. And it's more like a function of gathering. When
Victor Sagalovsky 23:01
you talk about community, it's clearly their safety and community in that safety there you're in a parasympathetic state, right? So there's no stress. And so the opposite when there's stress, stressful thought actually acidifies the blood, and it changes how you breathe. If you're living in a stressful environment, or you don't know how to you can live in a stressful environment, you just need to know how to manage need to know how to manage
Dana Frost 23:23
stress. Yeah. So would you say that if you can operate well in parasympathetic mode, which is slowing down as the rest and heal mode, that your body potentially has the capacity to offload deuterium like, let's say you live in I live in Chicago and Miami Beach, so I live in an urban environment and I live near an ocean.
Victor Sagalovsky 23:52
I think people that have less stress are less prone to inflammation. Yes, this is true. So that right there is a big win as far as lowering deuterium. You know, we lose a lot of water when we sleep, so we have to replenish our water every day. We our body can recycle about 35% of the water, but out of that water that recycles, that's, that's like 9000 gallons a day. It's constantly going through all these processes in our body. And then the water we lose, we have to replace. But the water your body wants is water that's lighter. I mean, it's physically lighter, not only lighter and deuterium, but lighter in everything your body doesn't want to do the work of being the water filter. Exactly.
Dana Frost 24:32
There are so many different things swirling for me right now, Victor, because I go to length. I mean, as much as I can to have water that is vital and alive, and so I filter it, I structure it, and, you know, in simple ways, and I hydrogenated as well. Are those measures helpful? Do you think I think so.
Victor Sagalovsky 24:55
Yeah, I think, you know, water is very malleable, and you. An effective structure, especially when it's the purer it is, the more crystalline it is. So the water in our in our cells that have a more crystal in nature, it's more structured, yeah? Meaning, like it acts as one organism, right? Say, like a crystal, it could hold information. So that's like the fourth some, some of the work of Gerald Paula, fourth phase of water. Yeah. It's very fascinating. Guys say, if you know water, you'll better know yourself.
Dana Frost 25:25
Yeah. So you, you mentioned meditating with water, and it made me immediately when you started talking the beginning of the podcast, it made me think about the work of Massimo Emoto, and you said the original person was, well, Victor
Victor Sagalovsky 25:39
Schauberger. Victor This is where all the water scientists have. This is who every water scientist after him were there, who they were inspired by,
Dana Frost 25:48
yeah, because that's really quite fascinating. The other thing you said that caught my attention is that just to be human, we have to defy physics.
Victor Sagalovsky 25:58
We break the laws of physics, yeah.
Dana Frost 26:00
And so it makes me think is that the intersection where the soul, I mean, this is just the way I believe that I existed before, and my soul chose to come in. And that fusion of the soul coming and inhabiting a human body,
Victor Sagalovsky 26:18
there's something to that.
Dana Frost 26:21
Can you speak into that? Or what are your thoughts about it? I'm not asking for like, a scientific reaction, but I think that there's so much wisdom in the fact that we are literally all connected through water quantum entanglement. Yes, and so water is a conductor of energy, we know. And I have my
Victor Sagalovsky 26:44
own theory, radical theory about water. Because radical because I haven't heard anybody else say it radical also because I can't prove it. But I think all water, the universe, is one organism. It's a multi dimensional organism. And if you start learning about higher dimensions, you find there's very tolerance in the higher dimensions for what goes on down here. What I'm trying to get at is that water exists in a state of like, like a child, right? Love, joy, trust, peace, and anything outside of that, it's very foreign to it. That's why, if you have that negative vibration, a thought form, that's what you embody, the water will say, I'm done. I want to leave. And then nothing will stop it. You get cancer. Something will happen. The water will want to go. So water is this one giant Universal Consciousness. I mean, you could look at it, I can't prove it, so I'll just defend it philosophically. But in that it's there's a lot of if you take that as a hypothesis, then a lot of things you see point to that very thing. The fact that water can mirror information, it can store information, its properties change based on how it flows, has a specific nature and a rhythm. And if you let it be itself. That's where it's most joyful. And by joyful, I mean it has a property of it's like a anti gravity property, like a levitating property. When we have that also moments when we feel like we're walking on a cloud, that's that uplifting feeling. And I think that we also get that feeling when we're listening to water. When we're next to water, and we're in water, we're drinking next water. If you start looking at it, you go, Oh my God, my whole world is revolved around water, right? Yeah,
Dana Frost 28:30
it is. It's, it's really fascinating. Ved I'm sure you're familiar with VEDA Austin, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sure you're, you probably know her, friends with her. I feel like she's carried on along the work of Massimo emuto by freezing water and getting the images. And what she has seen in terms of water mirroring in the images, it's just, it's undeniable that water has an intelligence, like it's just, you cannot deny there's an intelligence behind water, but
Victor Sagalovsky 29:00
it's like a decentralized intelligence, and that's why I say it must be the whole organism. That's not local. Everywhere there is water, it's one consciousness, because if it has intelligence, where is it stored? It's like somewhere in the cloud. It stores information, it stores energy, and that ultimately is the blueprint of life. And you couldn't have life without it, at least not that we know, right, that life that exists without H, 2o but then we got this little imposter in there, which is the deuteron I believe, that has shortened our lifespan, that has shortened that has diminished other things in nature, like if you look at a time when we had these giant plants, giant animals, dinosaurs, ferns, the size of three story houses, that was a time when there was less deuterium on the planet. Certainly, the gravitational fuel wasn't as strong. We had a higher Gauss. We had more magnetism. But still, that's part of it. It's just everything is observable. Deuterium, everything is observable. If you give somebody too much of it, you'll see them atrophy and die. Or if you do it generationally, like with mice, like you increase our deuterium. Third generation, there's they're sterile. They don't reproduce anymore. So what we have here is a new standard water purity. It's just very difficult to achieve. I think this will drive innovation, because if you find something that works, but you say, Okay, this really works, but it's super expensive right now because it's hard to make, and someone will answer that question in the future. This is so vital for our health and evolution. How do we increase its supply? I'm working on that. Other people are working on that. I think we found something worth pursuing.
Dana Frost 30:36
Yeah. So there's no answer to this, but where did it originally come from? Do we know? Like, what's
Victor Sagalovsky 30:43
the origin it's been here with us from the beginning? Yeah, okay.
Dana Frost 30:47
Do you feel like it's a distortion of hydrogen?
Victor Sagalovsky 30:50
You know what it is, it's a it's an in between element. It's stuck. The Universe cooled too quickly and it got stuck. Okay, okay. Stars burn it up. That's all but the deuterium on our planet has been increasing because of we're a water planet. So every time we get hit by a meteor or comet or asteroid that usually has water that's that's heavier in deuterium, with rare exceptions, we've been hit by meteors that have water on them that have low deuterium or lower but usually it's higher. So it increases the deuterium on our planet. It's also after the Ice Age, all the glaciers melted here in Chicago. I used I grew up in Chicago, I used to lay in my bed looking up at night, imagining a mile of ice above me. Because, you know, if you go to the Field Museum, you'll learn about all these fascinating history and you know the Ice Age, you know, the glaciers made it that far south in Illinois, so you had a mile of ice, and when that melted, that's, there's a lot of methane in there. Methane is full of hydro and it increased the deuterium level on our planet. So, yeah, our physiology has adapted to a lower deuterium level. You can get there through fasting, eating more fats, eating less. To make
Dana Frost 32:06
it practical for people, you lower the burden on the physical body. You lower the burden of deuterium. Yeah, yeah. You lower the burden through when you say fasting, eating less, these are all ways that restore the body naturally,
Victor Sagalovsky 32:23
and they have a deuterium depletion component. Okay, so that's really interesting. Yeah, before I got deuterium depleted water, I was doing it through dry fasting, five, six days, no food or water. Why? Because when you burn fat, when you burn a kilo of fat, you get a liter of deuterium depleted
Dana Frost 32:40
water. When you burn a kilo of fat, you get a liter of
Victor Sagalovsky 32:45
deuterium depleted water, about roughly, close, interesting, close to, yeah. So
Dana Frost 32:50
okay, I'm going to go in another direction, and we are definitely going to go longer than what I normally go. But I have a friend. She's been a client who did a water fast, she's she had a lot of grief, and she holding on to some trauma over a period of years, and she had been on a lot of medication for different reasons, and she went to Bali and did a seven day water fast, and she was only Drinking the pure water that came off the mountain in Bali, and it's amazing, like the difference Well, see, there you go. Yeah. So in essence, we have the reality. We have to come off the mountain. Whatever our mountaintop is. We have our mountaintop experience. We have to come up and we have to live as mere humans in Chicago, on the streets. She's in Milwaukee, on the streets of Milwaukee. And you know, we have to find our way. What are the strategies and the things that we can support this human that our soul lives in? So deuterium, depleted water, I think is an option. I do continuously.
Victor Sagalovsky 34:03
A lot of people drinking continuously. But what we're noticing is that you could do like a three to six month intervention, get back if you have metabolic condition or some metabolic issues, what your body's crying for is more energy to write that condition, just like long standing injuries, they're waiting to be healed, and their body actually does heal those injuries when energy is presented into the system, right? Absolutely, whether it's a form of conservation of energy, in this case, or extra oxygen, whatever, whatever it is, when I lived in Chicago, I used to always tell myself, I have to live in the moments between the breath. There's a lot going on. Yeah. It's like, okay, it's like, breathe. And then breathe, and every time you breathe, focus the consciousness on the space between. And then you have a really deep, intimate relationship with your core, with your center. And it doesn't matter where you are. Could be in big city. You could be on Michigan Avenue. You could be in Hawaii, because you, you know, at some point either you create your external reality, or your external reality creates you. Yeah, in Chicago, in any urban environment, it's what you put in your body. It becomes really important.
Dana Frost 35:13
And your consciousness of what you put into your body too. I think water is recording and reading our thoughts and our intentions,
Victor Sagalovsky 35:24
it's constantly vibing it surrounding going, is it safe? Can I be myself here? Can I be playful? Can I be joyful? Or is there something interfering with my path? And usually it's a human thought for water, you know, when you study hydrology and the way water flows, you know, Is it random, or is there, like, some underlying order that we don't really see? It's a lot more questions than answers, and that's that's why I like this view.
Dana Frost 35:49
Yeah, yeah. So I think if we were to leave the conversation in a way that is something that's people can grasp on to my perspective, it's almost the deeper questions myself asking the listeners, the community to rise the curiosity about water, the water they're consuming, what are ways that they can improve the water, The water that is in them. How can they connect to the water? I think is also something that's important, even just when you're drinking your water, being thankful to the water, offering gratitude to the water. What I love about where we are today, there's technology that supports us, like you're presenting this white water that's deuterium depleted. You know, there are, I think of Leela quantum tech, where I can put my water in the infinity cube and use quantum mechanics to structure the water. We can have a little hydrogen. I think you guys have that on your website. Don't you have something
Victor Sagalovsky 36:58
we do? We sell the hydrogen. I like I say that we specialize in water and the components of it, hydrogen and oxygen. Yeah, so
Dana Frost 37:05
that's one thing I didn't know about yours, but I did gift my friend and client a hydrogen water bottle for her return because I'm like, she's going to need something to help ground her back into reality. Whatever helps
Victor Sagalovsky 37:18
us align with our universal values, I think, is, is what makes us happier. Because I've never seen somebody put in traffic on North Avenue and go, this is, this is where I find peace. But yet, but yet, you put somebody in nature and they go, Ah, right, what is going to help us connect with that thing that is more aligned with our bliss? By radical theory, water is in a state of bliss, as much as something that we can't prove has any kind of central, organized nervous system. Can be because there's a brisk full of relationship in nature with water, because it's a gratitude for creating life, or being part of this dynamic, being a central part, a central core of existence. There's out of that. You know, you can argue that there's bliss, like the dolphins or the whales in the water, you know, when they're left alone, exist primarily in a state of wonder, state of bliss. Think about it. It's interesting. I I like to study dolphin. I live in Hawaii for a long time. I had interactions with them. I thought they were very, not only playful creatures, but they're able to communicate with you telepathically, or at least, you know, if I wasn't, I wasn't imagining it, and they do so with a visual, like painting a picture in your mind with a thought form. And I found out that if you take an x ray of a dolphins flippers, did you know this? That they have five fingers, they're polydactyly, and so that makes me think that at some point in ancient history, they consciously were on land with hands and feet. They had some intelligence to look forward, who knows, a million years, maybe millions of years, and go these things are going to get us in trouble. So we're going to go back in the water, and we're going to forego this, because this builds civilizations. This creates a problem. This grabs things, this hits things. These hands, right? It's an extension of our desires, of our nervous system. They said like they looked into the future, like a wise, enlightened elder going, let's go back in the water so we don't have that karma. Really interesting,
Dana Frost 39:22
the woman who introduced me to another technology that I use, lifewave patches. She was on my podcast recently, and she actually in her younger years, she was considered a dolphin whisperer. She's French, but she spent a lot of time in the Caribbean and leading people through rebirthing experiences, through dolphins.
Victor Sagalovsky 39:42
I know another famous dolphin communicator, Dolphin whisperer, that went to go save the pink dolphins in the Amazon, built a lodge around it, and the stories that she says are quite amazing. It's a intelligent they're intelligent like us, in terms of their believe, their frontal lobe capacity, yet they don't. Know, exercise these hands. Because of these hands, we can do what we're meant to do here, which is assist, help ease, you know, suffering. And so I feel very much in alignment with this, because I found something that actually moves the needle for people. You know, it's not for everybody, it's rare, it's expensive, but the science, we can't dispute it. And I welcome anybody to try, but it's a we, unfortunately, we have this mechanical issue, but we have too much deteriorate. I found when I was diving into the literature of this. So as soon as I found out about this, I go into the literature, and there's this, almost 70 years of literature on this. And I found literature and alien contactees talking about deuterium, and what were they saying? So two independent sources, both coming to the same having the same conversation with their et contacts, 20 plus years apart. And they asked them, Why do humans live so short? Well, the first asked them, How long do extraordinary live? And they said, well, it can be anything, really, you know much longer than your lifespan, but up to 1000s and 10s of 1000s of years, and so depending on your evolution, your state of consciousness, etc. Fancy answer, he said, Well, okay, that's great. How come we don't live very long on this planet? And both answers, both times, I can write references for you, both times, he said, it's because you have too much deuterium on your planet. Oh, interesting. If you go to Antarctica, it's the lowest deuterium on the planet. It's 89 parts per million, whereas the oceans are 155 and most of the water that we drink in North America is like 145 to 150 so Antarctica is this kind of they got. It's like frozen in time from 50, 80 million years ago, when there was less deuterium on the planet. There's this information coming in right now that, hey, if you want to evolve, you're going to start acknowledging and start trying to figure out how to manage this problem of deuterium, the problem of this heavy hydrogen, the problem of this thing hasn't found its final form yet. So it gets in the way of everything slows down biology. This is information coming on down, if you choose to believe it. I looked at it both ways. I looked at it from terrestrial science, and then actually, I mean, I looked at it from every angle, anything, any information I could find on it. And in that, I found these two sources that we're talking to, extraterrestrials. That's really interesting. One of them said Billy Meyer. He said that he had a physical communication, and the other one said he had a telepathic communication, Wes Bateman. And it's in there. It's a Wes Bateman's book in written in 1993 and he says, right there, you have too much to tear him on the planet. And he said, until you figure this out, he said that and three other things, until you figure that and three other things out, you will continue to have a short lifespan compared
Dana Frost 42:44
to us. Could you send me those references and I'll put them in the show notes, the books or whatever it is? Yeah, no, I think it would be something, you know, I'm interested, and I think other people might be interested too. It's
Victor Sagalovsky 42:56
a clue. Everything is a clue to writing the human manual, the human operating manual. Yeah, and
Dana Frost 43:02
you mentioned, I'll let this be the final rabbit hole I go down. But you earlier, you mentioned the crystalline structure, and it makes me think about something I haven't talked about on the podcast before. That I swim around with it a lot, and that is the ascension of humanity, and this idea of the crystalline body and how we're changing the human form to be more a more pure crystalline structure, as it was designed to be, or it has potential to be.
Victor Sagalovsky 43:33
What's interesting is, you know, we're a combination, where we're a synergy, a marriage of two different DNA, right? We have the mitochondrial DNA, which is how we can tell our matrilineal line, how we can trace back ourselves to a one common ancestor, mitochondrial Eve. But then we have the nuclear DNA, and they're separate, right? They're just they're intertwined. They live in a symbiotic relationship, and they make life possible, but you have mitochondrial and nuclear DNA, and on the mitochondrial side of DNA, well, it's a marriage that started. It's probably the longest successful marriage in the history of the universe that we know, or at least maybe in this sector of the galaxy, 1.4 5 billion years that this relationship was created, and because of this relationship, you have more and more complex life forms. Because mitochondria provided the water, it produces water and energy, but the nuclear DNA produces energy also. And this is very little talked about. We're going to touch on this subject. We have a symposium in Tulum. You can look it up, water symposium.org. We're selling tickets right now. So if you've made it this far in this, in this podcast, I think you're meant to be there. Watersymposium.org, we're going to talk about this biological transmutation, given superconduction, how water plays into this and so these are very profound subjects. So they say that you're talking about this crystal body, okay? And revelations, they say the lions shall lay with the lamb. But my interpretation of that is, you're not, you're not hungry anymore, because there's this karma that the mitochondria has is that, is that it's, it's always hungry, it needs food. So everything in nature is always looking to eat something, or it gets eaten, right? The two rules of being alive, you know, eats, find something to eat and don't get eaten. So that's why, because of mitochondria, it demands food, and so we have to eat. Some adopt a strategy of eating. Others, some adopt a strategy of eating fruit or whatever. And the nuclear DNA has a different way of creating energy. Find out about this at our conference, and certainly we just so it's a rabbit hole that we don't have the time for. That's really what's what it comes down to. It's about resolving how energy is made in the body. Because we want to be that crystalline nature, we're going to resolve this problem of being dependent on anything external. You know you heard of breatharians, or I call them autotrophs, people that don't eat food or water. It's just, it's just something that can exist on its own, on its own power. That's the turning on the human superconductor, to be able to exist on your own power, right? Because right now we, we don't. We can't, we don't exist on our own power. We don't exist on our own water. You can't say it to get it from nature. And this implicates us into this, into this karma with everything is of the earth. And then so we slowly age and then die, and then are reborn. So, you know, in a cycle, cycle of life, if we start asking these questions about why we are intertwined being of two types of DNA, and not only look at the mitochondria, but look at the Nuclear, the nucleus of the DNA and the interrelation. We'll start getting some of those answers to these questions. Yeah. And
Dana Frost 46:50
I would add, and this could be another rabbit hole that we don't want to go down, but I would add the divine blueprint. So where is it that on the DNA, the DNA IC has the fingerprint
Victor Sagalovsky 47:04
of source, yeah, and deuterium distorts that,
Dana Frost 47:07
yeah, okay, we bring a full circle, yeah. The more energy
Victor Sagalovsky 47:11
we have, like an antenna, right? The more power we have to receive a signal, the more signal we can receive. Just like you have faster broadband, you can download something faster, and if you have slower broadband, not only does it come in slower, but it's prone to interruptions and restarts. You know, the copy's not perfect. It's prone to corruption. You know, we've all had a corrupted file. It's a matter of energy, not only energy, but coherence. How that energy is conveyed? How is it coherent? Because coherent information needs less energy.
Dana Frost 47:41
Absolutely, absolutely.
Victor Sagalovsky 47:43
We're in a time that we're tempted like no other by so many things. So it's, it's really important to you know, when we have all these external potential influences, those are just triggers to find ourselves within, find that which aligns with us as authentic. I didn't feel like any water I was drinking was was authentic. When I grew up in Chicago, that's where I had my revelation, because I was drinking tap water, and then somebody gave me a bottle of glacial spring water, and that was just like, What is this? How is this different? It looks the same, but it doesn't taste the same. It doesn't make me feel the same, but, but, yeah, everybody's saying it's the
Dana Frost 48:19
same. Yeah, I know it is interesting that had people do just a very simple taste test of, just like the filtered water from we've got a filtration system, so just the filtered water, and then after I put it through, what you know, the way that I structure it, just my way of structuring it. Not one person has chosen the filtered tap water. No,
Victor Sagalovsky 48:41
no, because, and it's not even like animals and children. If you put, if you put light water and regular water, they don't even have to taste it. They always go for the light water. They just know it's just, they just know this. This looks heavier, it feels heavier.
Dana Frost 48:55
Yeah, it's really interesting. So I will make sure that we have all the information for this water symposium and Tulum and the wellness event. I can't forget the question I ask all of my guests, and that is, what does feeling younger while growing older mean to you? So you're chronologically, you're aging, but what does feeling younger while you're aging mean to you?
Victor Sagalovsky 49:18
So I think that first part of your life is like testing the limits, seeing what your potential is. Some people, it's what your capacity is mentally. Some people it's physically athletes, you know. Some people it's it's just you prove to yourself what you can do in this body, and then after you hit 50, it's about preserving that which you've attained and that which you've gained. That's what it means to me. It's about preserving. Like I had a friend that he made it to 100 before and he saw he said, he, you know, he told me a few things. I remember, he said, but one of them not as good as I once was, but I'm good once for as good as I ever was. Oh, I love that. If you feel youthful, it's probably. Are some things you can't fake. Yeah, maybe a professional actor with makeup, but, yeah, but it's really, it's ultimately, being authentic to yourself. If you feel good, you feel youthful, you feel like, you get up in the morning and you're like, ready to seize the day. Guess what? You're good, you're fine. And if you know how to address your injuries and how to heal and you're youthful and having energy on reserve, and our youth will do crazy things, and we feel so emboldened and invincible and immortal because we have this energy on reserve. And so as we get older, we get more cautious of things we do, because we don't have that same energy on reserve. But if you get that when you're older, you have that feel good, like you got energy like for days on a reserve, then you'll have that youthful mindset again, like anything is possible.
Dana Frost 50:46
That's really beautiful. Thank you, Victor, thank you so much for joining us this week on the podcast. Thank
Victor Sagalovsky 50:51
you very much.
Dana Frost 50:55
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