I’m joined by Chris Mirabile, the founder and CEO of NOVOS. Chris breaks down the ten hallmarks of aging, explains how they are all interconnected, and highlights two products that NOVOS brought to market to combat the root causes of aging.
We don't have to accept the aging model that has been the norm in our modern life. We all have agency over how we chronologically age, and there are so many tools out there to support us on that journey.
In this episode, I’m joined by Chris Mirabile, the founder and CEO of NOVOS, the first and only company that addresses human aging by targeting the ten mechanisms of aging. It’s a sophisticated topic, but Chris really breaks down the ten hallmarks of aging and how they’re all interconnected. He also highlights two supplements that NOVOS brought to market and the outstanding results from studies related to those products.
Chris shares the ‘aha moment’ moment when he realized that there are things we can do that positively impact the aging experience. His vision for NOVOS is to contribute more than a billion years to humanity by addressing aging at the cellular level. In our conversation, he touches on some of the science behind the NOVOS routine that combats the root causes of aging and helps unlock your vitality.
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Dana Frost 00:07
Welcome to Vitally You, a podcast created to introduce you to the tools that will be your roadmap for feeling younger while growing older. I'm your host, Dana Frost, a wellness expert, life coach and energy medicine practitioner. Here's what you can expect conversations about vitality from the inside out with guest experts in the field of health, culture and spirituality, and solo episodes along the way from me where I do deep dives into the topics of aging, heart intelligence, energy, medicine, and your innate capacity to heal. If you want to feel younger, while growing older, this is the place for you.
Dana Frost 00:52
Hi, everybody, this is Dana Frost, your host of the Vitally You podcast and I am so excited. You're here this week. With me. I have a really interesting guest this week, Chris Mirabelli. And our conversation was really interesting. Chris came to talk about the 10 hallmarks of aging and his own story of having a brain tumor when he was a teenager. And that really inspired his, if you will desire to participate in his own health journey and to have agency in his health outcomes. And actually to be an entrepreneur. So he is the founder and CEO of novos. And Novartis is the first and only company that addresses human aging, by targeting the 10 mechanisms of aging. Their team is composed of world renowned scientist and MDs from Harvard Medical School, MIT, University of Washington, the Salk Institute and the University of Liverpool, including legendary biologist, Dr. George Church, I think you're going to be really interested in this episode, our podcast vital to you is feeling younger Ron growing older, and Chris really speaks into that. And I'm not one to really talk about supplements. And I didn't really want that to be the focus of my conversation with Chris. But we touched on that. And I'm really curious about the two supplements that novos offers that actually, one addresses all 10 hallmarks of aging. So if you're interested in this, please stay tuned to the end of the episode. And please join me in welcoming Chris to the show. Chris, welcome to the show. It's really a pleasure to have you on this week.
Chris Mirabile 02:39
Thank you, Dana. It's nice to be here.
Dana Frost 02:41
Well, Chris, I would love for our listeners to get to know you. I know you, you know, you have an amazing bio, and you are the founder of this progressive, living younger company. And can you tell us a little bit about your health history and how you came to where you are today? Sure, happy
Chris Mirabile 02:59
to. So when I was 12 years old, I started exercising and getting interested in health, I saw an issue of Men's Health magazine and I wanted to get in shape I was inspired by it. And admittedly, most of my interests at that time was on a superficial level of health, right. So mainly staying in good shape, building some muscle, being attractive, being good in sports, and so on. But I was stopped suddenly, in my tracks when I was 16 years old. I was in New York City listening to a speech for a school trip at the Federal Reserve Bank, and I suddenly got very dizzy and nauseous. And next thing I knew I had woken up on the floor with blood all over my shirt. And it was because I had severed my tongue from having a seizure. And they immediately rushed me to the emergency room, I had to wait for my parents to come because I was a minor. And when they did, they proceeded to give me a CAT scan. And the CAT scan found a large mass above my left temporal lobe, which they went on to describe as being a brain tumor. And it was the single most emotional moments of my life, the being there in the emergency room with my mother and my father, but quickly tried to regain myself and focus on staying as optimistic as I could and positive as I could they had to do emergency surgery very quickly within a few days because of the size of the tumor was larger than the golf ball. And ultimately the challenge was it was not even going into the surgery. It was after afterwards post op for months. Everything from my thinking being much slower. My memory being shot, probably a combination of the inflammation from the surgery itself with anti seizure medication that they were administering to me it was Satie season. And so I was going into a lot of academic challenges, not on my best foot. And it also shaped me and changed me completely. As a person. I went from playing on the football team and experimenting with, with a little bit of alcohol going out with friends in high school, to spending my Friday nights writing poetry and contemplating mortality and my life and what I wanted to gain out of my life. And so it was a radical transformation, one that I'm very thankful for. And one of the things that I derived from that was first and foremost, I never want to be laying on the hospital bed contemplating mortality again, if I can do anything about it. And second, was that I wanted to shape my future as much as I could. And my way to do that was to become an entrepreneur. So over the years, I went into entrepreneurship I studied at NYU Stern business school, and went into private equity for just a year out of college. But all the while was working on a startup, which was later to be known as hotlist. We it was a social network, we scaled to over 200 million people social plans. And that was my first big step into entrepreneurship. All the while I was focused on health, more so than ever before, researching my genetics and digging into my health. And I always wanted to do something in the health field. I didn't know what exactly until about eight, nine years ago, when I came across a seminal paper published in a prestigious journal known as SEL, where I learned about what's known as the nine hallmarks of aging, or the nine biological root causes of aging. And that was an aha moment for me, because so much of what I was doing, experimenting with different diets, different supplements, different sleep hacks and technologies. I always had this nagging question in the back of my head, is this good for me, not only in the short term, but in the long term, too, because as I said before, I never wanted to end up in a hospital bed again. So I was thinking differently than most 20 Something year olds, or 30 something year olds, I was thinking about my 60s 70s 80s and 90s. How can I make sure I'm in good health, then? And the answer was not always clear. And sometimes, when it was clear, it was clearly not good. For me in the long term, it was something that would be good for a short term goal, say weight loss, or athletic performance or mental performance, but not necessarily for the long term. And that's when I had this aha moment, realizing that there are things you can do that positively impact these hallmarks of aging, so that you can be healthy and your optimal self today, no matter what age you are. And tomorrow when you're much older.
Dana Frost 07:49
While so many things you said just really sparked curiosity in me and as a mom to five children. I've been in, you know, an emergency situation with my kids, nothing as critical as yours. And so I put myself in that situation. And I really can't imagine the gravity of that. And for someone that is so young, at such a young age to be faced with their mortality. Yeah, that's very significant and defines a defining moment that most young people don't get to have until a later stage. So it's really interesting to hear how that really shifted everything about you what you focused on, it's shifted, it put you in, instead of the athletic world, if you will, this very introspective. You said poetry, so it's not like I think hard, you really went from hard to just a real softening.
Chris Mirabile 08:51
Yeah. I mentioned my mother before. And while founding novos, the company I now CEO of my mother, unfortunately, was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. And it was a very, very difficult experience for me. Closer was closer to my mom than anyone else in my life. And I remember I had just coincidentally stumbled upon the poems I wrote when I was back home spending time with her. And I read them to her. And she was so touched by it because the things I was experiencing and contemplating and feeling she was going through at that point. And it was just such a you know, it was it was a very powerful moment for both of us to to relate to each other on that level.
Dana Frost 09:41
Absolutely. Thank you, Chris, for being willing to share with us that personal point of contact with your mom, and it's so interesting how the things that we experience really guide us down a path that maybe we wouldn't have taken. And it's definitely seems to be the A case for you and, and down a path where we we have the potential to impact many people, which is what I think that you're probably doing now. So where you are today, in light of like where you've come from? What is your vision today for your life? I'm just kind of curious, you have this company, and we're going to talk more about your company. And we're going to talk about the 10 hallmarks of aging. But where you are today, what's that vision for your future? Today?
Chris Mirabile 10:28
It's a great question. So I mentioned earlier that I wanted to become an entrepreneur so that I could kind of shape the direction of my life, but also to be able to impact as many people as possible I see entrepreneurship as, as the modern way to amplify your impact on people, it's perhaps the most effective and efficient way to do it. It could also be turned in the opposite direction, and you can do bad things, right? But if you come with the right mindset, in the right goals and vision, you could, you could have a tremendous impact on many, many people. And so part of my vision for novos is to contribute more than a billion years of life to humanity. Like what would be more powerful than that to extend people's lifespans? And of course, their health spans along with it, so that they're living longer lives and why so that they can spend more time with their mothers or with their children or with their, their spouse, or friends, and, and so on. Because that's ultimately what it's about, and to be able to do so healthily. So that's my ultimate vision for novos is to be able to achieve that, and ideally go well beyond that, and using science to do so. So not superstition or anecdote, but actually using strong powerful science to make sure that we are being as genuine and efficacious as possible.
Dana Frost 11:52
Yeah, so that's something we definitely share in common. Chris, you have younger longer is the tagline. I believe that's a tagline for novice is that right? Yes, younger for longer. And the tagline my listeners will know is feeling younger, while growing older. And, you know, we're really at this precipice because of where science has gone on longevity, where, you know, we have what we have seen as the model of aging. And I know my primary motivation, Chris stemmed from watching my beloved grandmother, how she died, as in her 60s, my father died at a young he was 70. I don't know exactly which age it was a couple of years ago that he died. But it was really because of chronic disease, diabetes, inflammation, cancer, heart disease, all the things that truly are preventable, but you have to start decades before, ideally, in preventing some of these chronic diseases and, and, you know, I've watched three of my grandmother's live in long term care facilities and not wanting that for myself. So I see us at this precipice because of what we're finding out with science that we don't have to take the model, we don't have to continue moving forward with the aging model that has been the norm in our modern life, which is separation from family, what I would say is our rapid aging process, once it kicks in, there's a rapid aging process and study, you know, quick decline. And so we really share that in common. And I think both wanting to inspire, we have agency over how we chronologically age we do. It's not mysterious, and it doesn't even have to be random, we can be purposed about it. And that's why I wanted to have you on Chris, because I know you read that paper on the nine hallmarks of aging, and now you really focus on the 10 hallmarks of aging. So could you speak into the 10 hallmarks of aging?
Chris Mirabile 13:51
Happy to and just one thing I want to emphasize based on what you just said, which is that a lot of people like to blame genetics or look at genetics as being like, why they are where they are in their lives. But researchers have found that about 20 to 30% of your lifespan and health span are dictated by your genetics. So the overwhelming majority 70 to 80% is coming from lifestyle. So the nature versus nurture debate, it's been shown that it's actually more nurture than nature. And things like epigenetic tests, can further prove that these are tests that tell you your biological age, and we can see how making tweaks can change that rate of biological aging, and ultimately health outcomes as well. So I just want to emphasize that that it's more in your control than many people may have thought say a decade ago.
Dana Frost 14:46
Absolutely. And I'm glad that you highlighted that Chris and I can say I was pre diabetic. I turned that around. I my glucose levels are better than they've ever been as me as an adult better than when I was pregnant. I had the You know, three biological children, three vaginal births, the my glucose levels today at 56 are better than they've ever been. And that is me with my lifestyle, changing the way those genes express themselves. Everyone on my dad's side of the family had diabetes and went on medication. And we just don't have to accept the genes. We do have agency. So thank you for highlighting that.
Chris Mirabile 15:24
Of course, and congratulations. That's a wonderful outcome. It's a case in point example of, of how much control you do have.
Dana Frost 15:31
Yes, and we start I don't know if you would agree with this. But for me, when I think when I'm working with the client, the glucose levels, it's one of the places I start, even if it's a woman in menopause, or in perimenopause, I don't go directly to those sex hormones. No, we start with glucose levels.
Chris Mirabile 15:49
Yeah, yeah. That's, that's great, especially in modern Western society with our diets. Yeah, exactly. That's a good place to start.
Dana Frost 15:56
Okay, so 10 hallmarks of aging.
15:59
Yes, I mentioned before, there were nine that were identified in this seminal paper, but scientists have largely agreed that there should be a 10th added to it. So I'll go through all 10 of those. So some of them might be somewhat familiar to people and others are probably brand new terms. So mitochondrial dysfunction, mitochondria being the power plants of our cells, they become dysfunctional, so they're no longer able to produce as much energy as they normally would from the carbs and fats and proteins that you're consuming. Next is cellular senescence. So senescence cells are cells that turn into almost like a zombie state. And there's a number of different reasons why this can happen. One of the reasons is actually to arrest that cancerous cell. But the problem is that once a cell turns senescent, ideally, the immune system would remove that cell, but it kind of flies under the radar. And then it secretes what's known as a SASP, which is a senescence associated secretory phenotype a big term for essentially just damaging molecules that cause nearby senescence cells to also become senescent. And like many things in aging, and you alluded to earlier, it becomes exponential with time. So the more senescence cells you have, the quicker you're going to get more and more of them. And this can lead to things like skin wrinkling, or, or stiffening or hardening of the arteries and so on, along with other other causes. But this, this is one of the primary causes for that.
Chris Mirabile 16:29
Next is loss of proteostasis. So proteostasis is the idea of protein upkeep. So you have proteins, which are essentially like the the messenger molecules, they're the ones that are turning things on and off. So you have your DNA. And from your DNA, there's a number of steps that take place, but essentially, ultimately, proteins are produced. And these proteins can end up unfortunately, littering the insides of cells and the outsides of cells. So it's almost like you have garbage in your home and outdoors in the garbage persons never coming to pick them up, you're not taking it out of your home. And as a result, you're not going to really be able to use your home or access your home as you normally would. So the function of your home or in this case, your cells is degraded. And that is what's loss of proteostasis. So you want to try to improve proteostasis to clear out these proteins.
Chris Mirabile 18:23
Next is altered intercellular communication. So cells are all communicating with each other, it's a network. And as you age, it's more difficult for the cells to be able to communicate with each other to a degree, it's partially because of the loss of proteostasis. Right. So if you've got all of these proteins, blockading the cell, it's harder for those messenger molecules that are supposed to be hitting the cell to hit those cells. And therefore, there's there's a lack of communication so that the cells are not synchronized with each other anymore. And they're not working optimally. So that can cause organs to not function properly. For example, next is genomic instability. So this is a very commonly known one. Another way to phrase it is DNA damage. And so our DNA over time, it gets damaged from things like irradiation, for example, that can be from sun exposure, it can be from just oxidants that take place as part of our normal metabolic processes. But over time, DNA gets damaged. There are ways there are mechanisms within our body to repair that DNA. But not everyone is optimizing their biology to first and foremost protect the DNA from being damaged in the first place. And then secondary to repair it once it is damaged. And then obviously, if you have your base code being the DNA damaged, then what it is then communicating in the form of your epigenome and eventually, the proteins that are produced are going to be damaged as well and higher risk of things like cancer, for example exists when that happens.
Chris Mirabile 19:58
Next, this is number six. Is epigenetic alterations. So I just mentioned your genome or your DNA, your epigenome is a layer that sits above your genome. So epi mean meaning essentially layer in Latin. So you can think of your your genome as a piano. And then you can think of your epigenome as a piano player. And it's essentially the expression of your gene, because not all genes are turned on or off, right, they're turned on and off, depending on back to the earlier point, your environment, nature versus nurture. So nature is your genome. And then nurture is determining your genetic expression, which is executed via your epi genome. And this is something that as you age, certain genes that should stay on turn off, and others that should turn off, turn on. And we want to ideally have our epi genome as young as possible. So reflecting that of say, a 25 year old rather than a 35, or 55, or 85 year olds, right. And the epigenome leads to the proteins, again, that I mentioned earlier, that are the messenger molecules that carry out the functions in our bodies, then we have telomere shortening. So some of your audience may have heard of telomeres before because this was very trendy for a while, telomeres are the end caps of your chromosomes. So think of them almost like the end caps of shoelaces, and your Chromosomes contain your DNA. And every time your cell divides, your telomeres are getting slightly shorter. Now, there was a while where scientists were hoping that this would be able to tell someone how old they are biologically. But we've since found that there's too much of a variance per age to really determine someone's biological age. What we've learned though, is that telomeres when they get too short, let's say below five kilobases, kilobases, being the unit of measure that your chances of gastrointestinal cancer, and ultimately, mortality goes up significantly, then if it's longer than five kilobases. So in other words, if you're above five kilobases, where you are doesn't matter as much, as long as you're staying above five. And the good thing about telomeres is that you can lengthen them, there's an enzyme called telomerase that will lengthen your telomeres, and there's certain foods and supplements that can help to fuel that telomerase and lead to longer telomeres.
Chris Mirabile 22:26
Number eight is deregulated nutrient sensing. So this relates to what you were talking about with your blood glucose levels. So our cells, and by extension, organs and body need to be able to sense nutrients, and then to utilize those nutrients properly. And if there, our body becomes numb to these nutrients, or has fewer receptors, or insulin, sensitivity declines, and so on. These are things that can happen and lead to high blood glucose levels, high lipid levels in the form of say, LDL cholesterol or triglycerides. And these things when they are, they serve a purpose in our in our bodies, right? Glucose is there for a reason our brains needed our cells needed to function and for your muscles to move and so on. The problem is when it sits in your bloodstream for too long, and it's not delivered to the intended destination, then it can lead to the plaques in the arteries on the LDL or triglyceride side, it can lead to one of the next hallmarks I'll mentioned crosslinking on the protein side and lipid side. So which essentially stiffens things. So you want to make sure you have very good nutrient sensing. So your cell is using those molecules properly, and in keeping the levels as low as healthy in your bloodstream. So I'll skip to number 10. And then go back to number nine in a second.
Chris Mirabile 23:53
So number 10, is crosslinking. And so crosslinking is the sugar derived bonds that form a cross link. So they're taking proteins, typically, sometimes lipids, but oftentimes proteins in our bodies. And whereas those proteins should be separate, they're actually forming a sugar bonds between the two. And so now the proteins can't move the way that they should. And it stiffens that area of the tissue and then ultimately, the organ and so the the tissue doesn't function the way it should. This is, as I referenced earlier, when I was talking about cellular senescence, it's one of the reasons we get facial wrinkles. It's one of the reasons why our arteries harden. And so we want to try to reduce or eliminate those crosslinks as much as possible.
Chris Mirabile 24:40
And the final one is stem cell exhaustion. So a lot of people hear about stem cells. I don't know how many of those people are aware of exactly what stem cells do, but these are cells that are able to create exact replicas are duplicates of our cells. And so as we get older, they become dysfunctional, or they die off so we have fewer of them and those that we do have We are not creating perfect replicas of ourselves anymore. So we want to be careful to try to preserve those stem cells as much as possible. And then also keep them as healthy as possible into old age. So that's all 10 of the hallmarks of aging.
Dana Frost 25:14
Wow. Well, that is thank you. That's, that's a lot of information. So let's just take a few minutes to give our listeners things that they can really think about for themselves. So let's just start with stem cells. Because I talk a lot about stem cells on the show, what are some things that people can do to support their stem cells staying active? Does anything come to mind?
Chris Mirabile 25:38
Well, so you may have caught the hints as I was going through all of these, that they are all interconnected with each other in one way or another, right. So, for example, DNA damage, if you have damage to your DNA that can be occurring on a normal cell, but it could also be occurring to a stem cell as well. And if it happens to a stem cell, now you're you're having double problems, if you will, or possibly even more since stem cells are as powerful as they are. So protecting your stem cells is is important. And there are ways to really help to fuel and protect those stem cells. So my company Novus, we created a formulation, it's the very first formulation ever conceived to address all 10 of these hallmarks simultaneously. Other companies, especially in the biotech and pharmaceutical world, are investing billions of dollars into creating new novel molecules that the FDA will have to approve, to address maybe one or two of these at a time. And we in consultation with our Scientific Advisory Board, people from Harvard Medical School, MIT, and the Salk Institute agreed that addressing all 10 simultaneously would probably be the best way to address aging and to make the largest dent in the aging process. So two of the ingredients that we have, are specifically good for stem cell exhaustion. Those are glycine, and calcium, Alpha ketoglutarate. Both of those have research to show that they can improve stem cell health and stem cell function, among other things that they do as well.
Dana Frost 27:14
Awesome. So you have one formulation that addresses all 10 hallmarks of aging. Is that right? Did I understand you correctly?
Chris Mirabile 27:25
Correct. So we have two products that we brought to market. The first is called novice core. That's the foundational products that we sell. It is patents pending right now, it is based on the tremendous amount of research, there's more than 190 scientific publications that support the inclusion of these 12 ingredients in this formula. We've run independent lab studies of our formula as well. So far, we've gotten the results for three of those studies, in vitro human cell studies. So one of them showed that we were able to reduce DNA damage from irradiation by as much as 77%. So to your point about stem cells, this is one of the ways that we can help to protect stem cells, and on average by 68%. And these numbers are off the charts. The laboratory that ran this study, yeah, they did $7 million worth of studies and other substances for other companies or for their own knowledge in the past. And they said they'd never seen results like ours before. So that was really encouraging for us. Another study we haven't published yet, but this was done at the University of Bologna in Italy, by a DNA expert Professor. And he administer chemotherapeutics, to human cells, and was able to show that novos as a formula was able to reduce what's known as double strand and single strand breaks. That's the double strand break is the worst thing you can possibly do to DNA. Oxidation is one thing, it causes some damage. But a double strand break is like taking a car and splitting it down the axle. There's like no function anymore. It's destroyed. We were able to reduce the damage of that, I believe around 25% which is again, very significant when you consider how intensive this chemotherapeutic was. It we'll we'll publish that, hopefully in the new year. And then the third study, which we have published, was done at university, Newcastle University in the United Kingdom. And the professor is an expert on senescence cells and was able to show that we shrunk the size of senescence cells and prevented them from spreading and an order of magnitude comparable to the prescription drug rapamycin, and for those that don't know rapamycin is considered the gold standard in longevity research. There's no other drug that has been demonstrated as consistently to powerfully Slow Down Aging and extend lifespan. It's typically a drug administer to people for immunotherapy when they get an organ transplant, but when they administer the This very particular way, typically pulse doses, it's been found to be able to improve healthspan and lifespan in every animal species. There are some humans that are biohackers experimenting with it and some doctors prescribing it, but it's a little bit more fringe. And I'm happy to say our our product, which is all natural ingredients over the counter had comparable results on senescence cells in this in vitro experiments to the gold standard rapamycin.
Dana Frost 30:28
That is, you're kind of blowing me away. That's super significant. It's very impressive. I'm going to be really curious to look into your line, the novice line. So you have two primary products. Is that right, Chris?
Chris Mirabile 30:42
Yes, so So I just mentioned the first one, the second one is much quicker and easier. So that is one ingredient. It's called novice boost, and it contains n m n or nicotinamide mononucleotide. This is an ingredient that was popularized by the Harvard Medical School Professor Dr. David Sinclair, who wrote the book lifespan. He's done a lot of research on this molecule, but many other labs have as well. And the purpose of it is to increase NAD, which is a molecule involved in the Krebs cycle, which is where our energy is produced. And a lot of a lot of studies have found either actual health benefits or you find anecdotes as well. Oftentimes, people say they have better energy, some people say their hair graying has stopped or reversed. A whole handful of different benefits people are finding from Mmm,
Dana Frost 31:34
yeah, you know, Chris, it's so interesting to me, because we are willing to spend billions of dollars for sick care, billions of dollars, and we're, culturally, we're okay to spend 1000s of dollars on pharmaceuticals, that are treating symptoms. And when it comes to prevention, and actually extending the quality of our life. We think, Oh, that's too expensive. I can't spend the money on that when in essence, if we would flip the way that we look at taking care of ourselves, and really go for prevention, so that we never end up in the hospital so that we're never end up my goal is no pharmaceuticals for me. But we really need a mindset shift on how we, how we're taking care of ourselves. And, you know, our healthcare industry is slanted in the direction of the third party payer system. So we're paying, you know, individuals, families are spending 1000s of dollars every year for insurance. And we've got this other value proposition that has outcomes that far outpace with the system that we're in the matrix that we're in for healthcare, this other way far outpaces with better outcomes. And I want to shift that the paradigm and I can tell you what to shift their paradigm to. And so we need to be able to learn we need to take agency of our health and learn about, for instance, your company when what it's doing to so that people can have dominion and and determined to live younger longer. Because it's all available today. We don't really need to wait for even more technology, per se, because there are so many things available for us today to start taking advantage of. Which actually brings me because I know we're coming to the end of our time together, Chris, but I had learned on another podcast where I heard you speaking about your company being a public benefit company. And I know you do a lot of education that's free. So could you talk to us about that, Chris, what does that mean? That was new to me that terminology?
33:56
Sure, yeah, not many people are familiar with this. But there is a way that you can form a company so that it is considered a public benefit corporation. And I made a point to do this when they found it novos it essentially gives us the ability to do things that are in the public interest, the public's best interest, rather than only putting shareholders interests first and foremost, right. Of course, shareholders interests are important with any company. And so they're not neglected. But at the same time, we can if we're comparing two decisions, if one yields less profit, but it's very good for the public at large, I, as a steward of the business can make that decision, legally speaking. And I wanted to make sure that we had that built into the company so that we could do things that are good for the public interest at large. And so Novus has three legs. One is the formulations that I've mentioned, we have two so far, and there are others that will come in the future. The second is testing so we want to give people the toolset that they need to be able to See how they're doing on there, as we call it longevity journey, because it's a lifetime journey, right. And so we just released a paid for test kit. It's called novice age. And this includes three different tests. One will be your your telomere length, another is your biological age. And the other is that you need and pace clock, which is the world's most powerful advanced way to measure your pace of aging, essentially, if you're aging faster or slower than average, and by how much. But in addition to that, as a PBC, we offer free tests, for example, we have a quiz on our website that you can take to see how you're doing in your lifestyle. Based on research, what is best for longevity, we also offer a free facial AI test, that we partner with a third party for where you can take a selfie. And that selfie will be analyzed by AI with a dataset of more than 12 million people's photographs, and tell you what your facial age is what your eye age is, or like under eye, ah, and then your skin health, like your skin redness, and inflammation, pore size, wrinkling, and so on. So that's something that you can, you know, get a high level idea of how how you're biologically aging, at least from the external side of things. And we'll offer more tests for free in the future as well. And then the third leg to your question is education or knowledge. So there's a tremendous amount of knowledge that we want to disseminate to people, because so many people think that aging is inevitable that their their illnesses are inevitable, and there's nothing they can do about it. Not only that, I can't tell you how many people just don't understand how amazing life can be when they get into good health, right, they kind of fell into this default mode of thinking that, you know, this is the way things are. And then when you actually do improve your health, you realize the colors are brighter, your energy is better, your mood is better, and you think more clearly. So we want to spread as much of that information as possible. And so that's completely free on our website. The blog posts that we have at this point are written by PhDs and MDs all fully referenced with the scientific proof behind the statements that we put out there. And I've done a couple of webinars myself, and will continue to do so. So you can find on YouTube or on our website, I did one in August for longevity lifestyle, so tips and tricks to be able to extend your healthspan and lifespan. And then just a few weeks ago, I did one on longevity tests, which talks about the very high tech things like the epigenetic tests that I mentioned, but also other omics tests, as they're called, like your proteome and your your transcriptome, and so on. So a sophisticated topic, but I think I kept it relatively simple. And then the second half is at home test things you can do for free or close to free to track how well you're aging. So practical and, and theoretical, if you will, that presentation.
Dana Frost 37:55
Yeah, that those that is just wonderful. And I encourage all the listeners to do the facial aI think that sounds really interesting. And the quiz and take advantage, there's so much it sounds like your company is offering a lot of valuable education. And there's a lot we don't have to pay for when it comes to taking agency over our health. There's so much that we can learn online. And I I really love and appreciate this idea of the public benefit company or corporation and what you're offering as a company. So I will be sure to include some of the links in the show notes to the two different trainings you said you did to these two tests. Is there anything else that you would like us to know about your company Chris, before we close,
Chris Mirabile 38:41
I would say actually not about my company, but I have a blog of my own if anyone's interested. So it's slow my age.com That's where I go into what my biological age results are. So I've had tests done on my telomeres, it's that of a less than an eight year old, my biological pace of aging is 31% slower than average. And I go through all of those results, but then I also will be posting about my lifestyle. So the different foods I eat and my nutrition plan, my exercise routine and so on. So anyone who cares to dig in, it's a little bit more geeky and in depth than our you know, novice labs.com website is but anyone who wants to geek out with me they can check it out. I'm on Instagram and Twitter as well as slow my age
Dana Frost 39:30
I was gonna say I found you the so my age account on Instagram. So yes, that's another great place to engage with you as well. So okay, Chris, I have a question I asked all of our all of my guests and it is what does feeling younger while growing older mean to you?
Chris Mirabile 39:48
It means deriving the most out of life. So we're not here for very long and quality of life is perhaps the most important aspect right? Who cares if you live 200 years if you have a terrible quality life, right, so we all need to have that as high as possible quality of life. And when you're younger for longer, it means that you can maximize the value of every moment that we are here.
Dana Frost 40:14
Absolutely, and amen to that. And Chris, thank you so much for sharing your insights and your story. Being vulnerable with us. I'm really excited. And thank you.
Chris Mirabile 40:24
Thank you for having me.
Dana Frost 40:26
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