I’m joined by functional lifestyle practitioner Kate Smith to discuss integrative medicine, healthcare solutions for low-income and uninsured women, and brainstorm ways to reach more people who are in desperate need of healing.
We're at record levels of people struggling with chronic conditions and not being served. After feeling unsupported during her own health journey, functional lifestyle practitioner Kate Smith wanted to reach a community of people that have limited access to resources. She’s a volunteer at Dream Centers, a non-profit women’s health clinic in Colorado Springs, Colorado. In our conversation, we discuss the services that Dream Centers offers and talk about how to scale their mission to reach more people who are in desperate need of healing.
With a team of chiropractors, physical and massage therapists, sonographers, therapists, counselors, nurse practitioners, and nutritionists, Dream Centers provides integrative and comprehensive healthcare solutions to low-income and uninsured women. Kate and I chat about the unique approach that the clinic has to uncover the root causes of symptoms. She shares a powerful patient success story that illustrates the power of the mind-body approach to healing.
Kate points out the common mindset and financial blocks that many of the patients at Dream Centers face, and breaks down how she and her team work together to help them reach wellness. Listen in to learn more about the amazing healing work that’s happening at Dream Centers and how we can all be of service to the people who need it most.
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Dana Frost 00:07
Welcome to Vitally You, a podcast created to introduce you to the tools that will be your roadmap for feeling younger while growing older. I'm your host Dana frost, a wellness expert, life coach and energy medicine practitioner. Here's what you can expect conversations about vitality from the inside out with guest experts in the field of health, culture and spirituality, and solo episodes along the way from me where I do deep dives into the topics of aging, heart intelligence, energy, medicine, and your innate capacity to heal. If you want to feel younger, while growing older, this is the place for you.
Dana Frost 00:52
Hi, everyone. Welcome to this week's episode of the vital EU Podcast. I'm Dana frost, your host and thank you for joining us this week. This week's episode is no ordinary conversation. Do you remember my solo episode a few weeks ago where I addressed the state of our Health Affairs. I propose that our conventional medical model lacks the resolutions for our modern day chronic diseases and autoimmune disorders. I also proposed that the holistic integrative community, which includes a variety of modalities, and even biohacking technologies, is having success in helping people heal from these chronic conditions. The challenge is how to transform our healthcare model, a model that is deeply embedded in a third party payer system and pharmacology powered by pharmaceutical corporations with deep pockets. An even greater challenge from my perspective is how to serve communities that are already underserved by the current model. Now, I don't claim to have the answers, but I have curiosity. And I believe we need to have the conversations in order to move the direction of the industrialized medical complex. And after today's conversation, I am more convinced we have to build a whole new model. Better yet, let's put the biohackers in charge. Just kidding, but I'm probably not. Please join me in welcoming my functional nutrition and lifestyle colleague, Kate Smith. Kate has been rolling up her sleeves as a volunteer every Monday morning for two years to meet one on one with clients of the dream centers women's clinic in Colorado Springs, Colorado. Kate has both a bachelor's and master's degree in education. She graduated with distinction from the United States Air Force Intelligence weapons instructor course and is now a certified functional nutrition counselor and a certified functional nutrition and lifestyle practitioner. That is a mouthful. She also worked for many years as a United States Air Force Intelligence Analyst and instructor. This is Kate Smith. Let her bio simmer there for a while. She is wickedly smart. She is also a military spouse of 25 plus years, a mother of two. She has been deployed around the globe and lived all over the United States as well as overseas. Kate and her family now Colorado Springs their permanent home and she has has a thriving private nutrition practice. And then as I mentioned, She also volunteers at the free Women's Health Clinic. In both Kate incorporates all of her training experience and passion for getting clients and patients to health. Hmm, yes, I would want Kate reviewing my health care case. Kate, welcome to the show. It is a real privilege to have you on the show today. And I'm excited for our listeners to hear from you. You have so much unique experience in history. And so welcome to the show, Kate. Hi.
Kate Smith 04:21
It's really exciting to be here. Dana, thank you for asking me to do this with you.
Dana Frost 04:25
Well, you are welcome. And, Kate, you know, I'd like you to share how is it that you came to be in service at the dream centers women's clinic?
Kate Smith 04:36
So the short story or the long story, right,
Dana Frost 04:40
the long story give us the long story.
Kate Smith 04:43
So yeah, the I mean, the long story starts from me being in a place of service for a long time. I mean, I'm a mom and a wife and that's part of that but I also am a prior service in the Air Force and that when I did that, right Get out of college, I went through ROTC Reserve Officer Training Corps in college. And that came from a place of wanting to serve my country. And so that was kind of the first part of that story. And through that service, and even when I got out of the service, my husband was still in. But myself and my family, we were being cared like, our medical care was done through the military medical system. And it's one of those where it's a lot of people needs to be fast, right. And I was running into my own health challenges, especially after my husband deployed lots of different issues and kept being, I don't want to say pushed aside, but almost just like, not heard in that system, right. And so I felt like an underserved. It's not under paid attention to, but Right, like just not being listened to in my struggle. And so then it became something that I wanted to first of all, I needed to figure out what was going on with myself. And so I did that in multiple ways, and then became certified as you and I have both done same program, and then wanted to be able to give back in the manner I knew was missing. Does that answer that question?
Dana Frost 06:22
Absolutely. It really
Kate Smith 06:23
the medium size story? Yeah, no,
Dana Frost 06:27
it really does, Kate, because as you know, and the listeners know, I have my own health story where I also didn't feel seen and heard. And I think that, really at the very heart of being human, it doesn't matter where we are in the world. And it doesn't matter what our circumstances are, sir, you know, where we can provide for ourselves or we're underserved. The human wants to be seen and heard. That's just foundational to being human and connecting with other people and feeling that there is value because I stand in the space of where I am. And when you combine that with a health challenge and not feeling seen or heard, it's painful. I know that pain, yeah, I believe
Kate Smith 07:11
it can exacerbate the issue in and of itself, that not being seen and heard.
Dana Frost 07:16
Absolutely. So it's funny, Kate, because in a way, we share that similarity of wanting then to return and serve others, because we had to kind of find our way. So for you, it was the military medical system. For me, it was just the conventional medical system of not feeling like these doctors don't understand me, they're not listening to me. And we're we know, because of our practices that we are not alone.
Kate Smith 07:43
Right? Now, I mean that that same, they're not listening to what I'm saying they don't understand what's going on that they aren't helping me get to the bottom of what my issues are, whether it was conventional, or within the allopathic practice of the current military medical model, same exact story.
Dana Frost 08:02
I understand that I think that this is this is really what we want to talk about today is chronic conditions have been rising. And we're at record levels of people having chronic conditions and not being served. You know, I had really good insurance and you, you know, middle of the military, you it's not that you don't have insurance, or access, necessarily, but it's that they don't really have the solutions that are helping. And so then where you're serving at the Women's, what's the name, they went dream centers, women's clinic, you're serving a community of people who don't really have access to resources. And so today, we're really here to talk about that, what, where are we at? And how do we serve people with the methods that we actually know, have efficacy and can make a real difference can be touchpoints that actually move the needle in someone's health situation? How do we serve those communities? And you're, I know that you're showing up weekly? And so can you tell us, you know, what is it like for you working in the dream centers, women's clinic?
Kate Smith 09:13
So it is a well, first and foremost, it's a fabulous way for me to start my week, like that's I'm there every Monday, unless there's a holiday or something and me being there was completely via an organic conversation with another mom, right? I mean, that's what got me there. And so I'm there every Monday, you're right, and I'm the only nutrition professional that's at the clinic. So it is a different demographic, it's underinsured or uninsured. So they have to qualify through the State System of having a certain income and you know, no insurance and that kind of thing, right. And every single time I see a patient at Tikal Nik, they leave smiling because someone listened to their story. And you and I both know, based on all of our training, that story is so important in someone's journey to wellness. And so many times when the story is not listened to, there's a key piece of someone's what they need for healing is in that story. And so when a doctor only has like, seven minutes to listen, you can't get to that. And so that's yeah, so I'm there every Monday, it's a women's clinic. So it very much focuses on women's health. But we also know that that specific demographic is under seen and under heard. And then if you add to that, financial stressors, and the other reasons that don't allow for insurance that covers medical care of any type, right, there's that just exacerbates the whole. I don't wanna say problem, but but it makes the story even more important at that point in time. Hmm.
Dana Frost 11:09
So tell us about this specific clinic. How do the women get there? Are they referred from a state worker? Or is it you know, like, this neighborhood thing, or the city thing? How do women know about it?
Kate Smith 11:22
Right? So I mean, yes. Like, I know, you'll be above we love the answer of it depends. So it is the dream centers is a nonprofit, it is a women's health clinic. So it focuses on on women's health issues. And it is in the city of Colorado Springs. There's a few different ways. There are primary care or family practice type clinics that are along the same lines as the dream centers, but that don't have specialty women's health care. So sonograms, leaps, birth control methods, like everything that goes into OBGYN type stuff. That's the focus of the dream centers. So they can be referred from other clinics, they can also be referred from I mean, we get people that just talk to each other. You and I both know that when you do good work. That's how the word gets around. So friends will talk to friends and say, oh, you should go to the dream centers. And because it's, it literally is Dana, it's an integrative clinic. There's a chiropractor, there's a physical therapist, there's a cinematographer, there's a massage therapist, we have counselors, we have pas, nurse practitioners, and now we have a nutrition practitioner.
Dana Frost 12:44
Wow. Right? That's phenomenal. And how often do the women get to come?
Kate Smith 12:49
So it depends on the service. I mean, if they're struggling with any women's health issue, they can call and make an appointment, it doesn't matter. For massage therapy they are given because we only have one, really, they're given a certain number of massages that they can use, like kind of like a punch card. counseling sessions are along the same lines. The physical therapist is fairly new. So I'm not as certain about their criteria, but I believe chiropractic care is ongoing.
Dana Frost 13:20
Wow. So it really is integrative and comprehensive. There are a variety of modalities. And I would, you know, I think that this is what we see is this is what I've seen in my own health challenges. And for my clients. It's never just one thing. It's never just Oh, this one modality and you're going to be fixed just as it's not just take a pill and you're going to be fixed. Normally, it's a collaboration of, you know, different modalities that touch on these different areas of a person's life. That really helps them make peace with what's happening to them relaxes the nervous system. I love that you said they leave smiling like they come they are seeing their heard, and their story is acknowledged, which is really a key piece that I do. You mentioned it conventional medicine is just really missing that the time allotted so that someone can really elaborate on. Okay, this led to this led to this led to this. And it's the inquiry in you know, for us as we're having an inquiry with clients and learning more about them that you begin to discover the myriad of different things that have happened in a person's life that brings them to where they are. Yes, with the health challenge.
Kate Smith 14:41
Yeah. And it happens on numerous occasions where I will have gone through, you know, an intake type session with someone or timeline type session, whatever you want to call it, and realize that, you know, there's something that they're struggling with that, you know, there was a car accident like four or five years ago, right? That didn't necessarily come up in any other appointment with anyone else. And I'll go, are you seeing our chiropractor here? And they'll go, oh, no, no one's talked to me about that at all. Right. And then I can, through that collaboration at the clinic can put in the referral for you need to go see the chiropractor, because this is part of that. Right? Or with you know, there's a lot of different pelvic floor issues with women's health, and our physical therapist is a pelvic floor specialist. And so I've had her refer people to me, because of what she knows happens with hormone regulation and things. So the cross talk between all the different practitioners leads to even more of that synergistic care that you just don't see. And for that, to be available to this specific demographic is I think, hugely important.
Dana Frost 15:54
Yeah. And, you know, it's so it's, it's barely available to people who have insurance, this is what we're up against. It's barely, it's just, it's not that common. It's not the way that we practice healthcare in this country in the US. It's not the way we practice healthcare. And the real challenge is, how do we then serve people who don't have access to resources? So you're, you know, you're involved with a center that is offering service? And so how is that center funded?
Kate Smith 16:28
Yeah, lots of different grants. And the dream centers is an umbrella. There's also under the dream centers is a place called Mary's home, which is an apartment complex for what were struggling moms and kids that were on the streets. And they can come and live and go through like, a program that gets them back on their feet. So under that umbrella is Mary's home, and the dream centers, women's clinic. And so part of that funding is there from that umbrella, but also from a lot of grants, a lot of a lot of grants.
Dana Frost 17:06
And so do you see large foundations funding this? Do you see private people funding? Is their government funding or maybe church funding?
Kate Smith 17:18
So I'm not the funding expert. So I don't want to like I don't want to say that, like, I don't want to answer incorrectly. But I would say there's probably a miss, like a mix of, of a lot of those different things. And there are certain things that I know are funded through the state of Colorado. Okay. Yeah. Because Colorado has a specific program. The acronym is something that I can't remember. But it's catch, like if somebody catch qualified and the see is Colorado, but I don't remember the rest of it.
Dana Frost 17:47
Right? Oh, okay. Okay. Well, yeah, they're trying to catch people who are probably falling through the cracks. And yeah, I'm sure that there's some clever acronym.
Kate Smith 17:57
And then and then there are labs that can be funded through that and different types of things. So yeah, there are lots of different resources that come into the clinic. The thing I would focus even more on is the fact that from a staff standpoint, there's really four or five people and all the rest of the practitioners are volunteer.
Dana Frost 18:18
Yeah. So the majority of the people offering service are volunteering, maybe a day a week, or how does that work? Most people are coming in a day a week and offering services. So maybe are there multiple physical therapists, for example? Yeah,
Kate Smith 18:33
so that's from from a nurse standpoint, from a nurse practitioner standpoint, all of those different services, someone can it just sort of depends on the schedule. Like they can say, I can give this day like, that's what I've done is Monday is my day at the clinic. We have some nurses or nurse practitioners that are working a certain shift at their own clinic, and then either tack on the beginning of the day, at the dream centers or the end of the day, or something like that. So it's anywhere from a half a day, to a whole day. And yeah,
Dana Frost 19:08
yeah. So I mean, it's it is it's what I see even in other sectors, it's the volunteerism heart that is very unique to the United States. I know that you're in the middle, you've you know, you have a global perspective, you have global experience, and I've lived abroad. And you you realize there is something that's very unique about the American psyche, in terms of volunteerism, I don't know if you've experienced that this distinction that Americans are prone to volunteer.
Kate Smith 19:39
Hmm. Oh, I haven't necessarily thought about or looked more into it. But
Dana Frost 19:44
yeah, yeah, it's I don't know if it's because most of our experience was in Latin America. And we just noticed that there was this distinction, even in terms of giving a financial resources that it's also embedded in the tax code in this country. This is not necessarily something we want We'll talk about but it's just popping into my head. So I'm just this just a flowing conversation, what I'm getting to is it really it takes a village of people who are willing to say, I'm going to give up my time. Yes. And, you know, I don't know what it would take, I think often about what does it take to shift the paradigm of how we do healthcare in this country? And then, that just seems like this monumental force, it's very difficult to move the needle. And then we think, okay, then how do we bring in the people who aren't even in that system? And, you know, I kind of just come to we've got to build something new.
Kate Smith 20:45
Right. And in a way, the dream centers is something new. I mean, from an integrative healthcare standpoint, and it's being done mainly by volunteers.
Dana Frost 20:54
That's amazing. And so what do you see some of the barriers or challenges? What are some of the challenges, say challenges instead of barriers
Kate Smith 21:03
for the practitioners there for the people that come in?
Dana Frost 21:06
For the people who come in? What are some of the barriers in terms of, you know, the, the lifestyle, or the things that need to happen? For them? What do you see some of the challenges? Yeah,
Kate Smith 21:19
I would probably say, I would put it three fold. And one of them being mindset of, I'm stuck. This is how it's gonna be for me, like that kind of mindset. Right? The Second Coming from a financial perspective, and that, you know, and we've, we've heard it, it doesn't matter who you and I have both heard the eating healthy is really expensive, right? Which is still sort of a mindset, but that would be the second one. And then the third is really, from a story perspective of how do they the challenge of how to make it all work within the constraints of their current situation? circumstance? Wow. Yeah,
Dana Frost 22:09
those are three big challenges. And it's interesting, because I always think it's start like, if from a mind body system, right, we know the nervous system is regulated, if we just start with the breath, I'm going to just take it back to like, where I start, you start with your breath. And the nervous system is in operation through the breath. And that impacts your heart rate variability. On top of all that, it's our thoughts. It's our story, it's the way we think about something that actually triggers the emotion, that then triggers the way the breathing pattern gets set that's connected with heart rate variability that's connected with the vagus nerve. And then you get those chemicals that get released in the body. And that's we know that is fight and flight, we know that as PTSD. What happens when we have a health crisis, many times are some sort of a traumatic event that has been a trigger. And then there's the domino effect of what happens when those issues really get embedded in our tissues. And getting out of all of that coming, like rising from all of that? It is it's a tremendous amount of work.
Kate Smith 23:29
Yes. And so, and on top of that, all these other levels of challenges where someone will come in, you know, for an appointment, say for, you know, a yeast infection, or some other specific women's health concern, right, and they'll get time with the practitioner. And our appointments are, I mean, the clinic appointments are a lot longer than a normal, conventional model, right? And something about digestion, or something will come up in the middle of that. And then one of the practitioner that seeing them will say, Well, maybe you should see Kate, and then they'll come to see me, and we'll uncover some sort of chronic issue that's been around for a really long time. Right. And so there's that. And then you put on top of that, the, well I think I'm just stuck this way, right, I can't get out of it, or the quest to get out of it, which we also know is a sympathetic nervous state to begin with, and then add on that the I'm not sure I can afford to make the changes I would need to, to then climb out of whatever the challenge is. So it can be a circle that just continues unless somebody hits the stop button. Mm
Dana Frost 24:47
hmm. Have you witnessed hitting the stop button for people? Yes. Yeah. Can you tell us maybe a story or?
Kate Smith 24:56
Yeah, I mean, some of it is a I'm trying to think if I can figure because it does, it happens a lot.
Dana Frost 25:04
Think about it, because I'm going to make a comment while you think about that. What Kate is describing, I just want to make a plug for the way that we practice through the functional nutrition, lens and lifestyle, functional nutrition and lifestyle practitioners. That's what we're called. But that lens, it's so unique, because we do take the time to go back all the way, even in the womb, if we have, you know, if the, whatever the person can remember. And for you listeners, your story, going back and remembering everything from your past and, you know, trying to get information about what it was like for your mother when she was pregnant with you and mining the information of your own story to understand, how is it that I came to where I am today? And how could that be impacting whatever I'm experiencing today? That that's this is the unique lens that we see through and asking this deep inquiry that Kate is talking about to kind of uncover what could be going on? What are other things that could be going on and contributing to where a person is today. So I just wanted to kind of throw that in there, Kate?
Kate Smith 26:17
Yeah. And that actually helped me refine what I was thinking about one specific story, working with someone at the clinic for quite some time, right. And lots of progress had been made. But then there was this sticking point, right, like, we get stuck somewhere. And I went back to all of the things that she had talked about in her intake session early on in her life. And then I asked the very hard question, which sometimes it is, it's an uncomfortable question of have you dealt with all of this trauma? Have you processed that? Have you talked to someone? And the answer was no. And I said, that could be a very big reason as to why we're stuck. And the beauty about the clinic is that we have the counselors right there, right? And so I can just say, Okay, I'm going to refer you, and now more progress is being made. But that was the sticking point. Because no one had ever asked her if she had processed all of that stuff. That was 30 plus years beforehand.
Dana Frost 27:28
Yeah, I have full body goosebumps. Because my listeners will recognize and it's familiar, something that I talk a lot about Kate is, if you haven't made peace with your past, you're gonna hit a point where you have no progress. And even even for people who have a buttoned up nutrition, they've got their lifestyle in terms of the movement, the digestion, maybe things have calmed down in life. So but they're still just hitting, they're hitting this point where they're not able to make progress. And there's still something that's just not quite right. And it always, it always comes back to there's something from the past that they haven't dealt with. And we really have to do the heavy emotional lifting or, or not really, it's the deep dive into making peace with the past, which is the stuff that we actually just we don't want to we don't necessarily want to look at it again. Because it's over. We just want it to be over. We don't want to open up that Pandora's box again. But in essence, the healing journey, it is that invitation to open that box and make peace with it.
Kate Smith 28:42
It's the asking the why question. And not even stopping at the first why, but saying why? And then you get an answer. And then, okay, why? And then, right? It's the continuous. Why? Until you get to the to the bottom of it.
Dana Frost 29:01
I can only imagine how seen the women who you sit with Kate feel in your presence. And I just want to honor that right now. Because it's powerful to be able to sit in the seat of witnessing someone's story and honoring their story. And it's what we all need.
Kate Smith 29:22
It is and it's my hope for every single person that I work with, like that's if they walk out with anything. You know, I mean, like my biggest prayer for them is that they walk out with at least hope every time. Yeah, well,
Dana Frost 29:38
when you were saying that one practitioner says oh, you need to talk to Kate and then Kate says, Oh, we've got counselors for that. And then you know, we have a chiropractor who does this. And the what you're giving them little nuggets of hope. It's like all along the way the touch points. Those are like, oh, there's hope personally, I've been there in in my own health challenge of like you Oh, oh, okay, then I can look forward to that. You know, that's another piece that I, you know, that's something else I need another modality and they're little nuggets of hope that really that energy, that positive energy that flows through the system, I can feel a right now that can carry us so far. It's so like a little, a little light of hope. It just has a return on investment. That's is unbelievable.
Kate Smith 30:29
Yes. And I completely agree. And if you add that, plus the understanding of what's going on, like if one day understand what's going on in their body, you have the, the that spark of positive hope and the understanding of what's going on in their body, there's so much more impetus to okay, I can do this thing that you're telling me would help me? Like, that's right. And so it's just one. And there is little steps, it's always little steps, right? Every time they're their baby steps. But with everything you just spoke about that like triangle, if you will, it just to make that change, then that much more doable? And then effective.
Dana Frost 31:18
Yeah, as to try like that you use triangle. It's a triangle of care that someone can receive. Yeah, yes, we can do so much. So there's a coaching model I was trained by Dr. Martha Beck in the coaching model is you break down what you want to accomplish into this very the most tiny step that you know you're going to be able to accomplish. And we often can forget this when we're you know, when we're thinking about health, I know that for our the practitioners who practice with us, we don't forget this because it's the way that we practice, but you only need to do one small, tiny shift, to then give you the energy then to do the next thing, right. And the body it seeks homeostasis at such a high rate that it responds to these very small things that we do.
Kate Smith 32:11
Yes, even as simple as drink more water, or choose a different breakfast. I mean, just like the smallest things, and people will come back and go, I can't believe that that tiny little thing I did made that much difference. And they'll tell me about how different they feel, you know, in the span of whatever time that since I've seen them last just with those different changes.
Dana Frost 32:39
That's amazing. And that is just encouraging. So Kate, from your experience, what do you see like, what are some of the like, I want to create an organization it's like I'm a dreamer, I'm I'm a, I'm a quickstart and a dreamer. Keeping the legs on something is not necessarily my strong suit. But we have to do you know, you're doing something you're showing up every Monday. And so I think you've been doing this for at least a year, I think longer. I'm just it's been to a little over two years. Okay. What would your call to action be for? You can take it to me your call to action for me your call to action to practitioners your call to action? On a country scale? What would you what do you see like some call to actions? What do you say, Wow, if you could wave a magic wand? What would you like on a micro level on a macro level? What would you?
Kate Smith 33:33
Wow. Yeah. So I mean, so from a micro level, the call to action would be I mean, I from my heart, I believe that we should all be in a place of service in this form or fashion. Right? If we want to see global change, it starts right here. Right. So find a place where you are to give of the services that you know you can provide to a community that wouldn't normally have that. From a micro standpoint, like and, you know, if I were to dream from a macro standpoint, I would love to create my own little clinic. Right. You know, I think there needs to be more of that for everybody, even from a from a paid health care or, you know, preventative health care, wellness care, whatever a better word for it is that collaboration amongst practitioners in one spot regarding the people that come to that place that is so underrated the collaboration between the practitioners and helping someone reach wellness. We do that every day at the dream centers and it's a 5013 C, right. So imagine what a bigger corporation or whatever could do if they thought through that lens, that model of collaboration of care For a person. So that would be from a from a big level, right? I think all clinics should be like that.
Dana Frost 35:07
I love it. Why that's, that's great. Thank you for sharing that. And I agree. And if any of our listeners are out there going, Wow, that's really cool. I'd like to participate in that I had a conversation with a woman who is working with me in this other area. And she's in a community where resources are scarce. And she's wanting to share some health information with people and people don't have resources. And we had this long conversation about how to provide health care resources for her community. And I was just dreaming. Like I said, I was dreaming, oh, my gosh, we need to start something and but there really is power to gathering together with some people who are like minded in the caring serving profession, and who knows, who knows what could be created. So maybe this conversation that Kate and I are having could be a spark to anyone listening, if you say, Wow, I would actually like to talk about this, I'd like to participate. This sounds really interesting, or, or I know somebody's doing it in this particular place, and you should come and look at this model. If this is sparking anything for our listeners, would you just please reach out, I'll leave my email in the show notes. I'll leave information about how you can find Kate as well, in the show notes. But if it's sparking anything for you, we would just really love to hear from you.
Kate Smith 36:39
Yes, I mean, I know people that have done just that at farmer's markets, and through local food banks, and you know, just all those different types of things that we know are already in place. And starting there, can you never know where it will go?
Dana Frost 36:59
Yeah, and so this idea, I mean, one of the reasons I wanted to have you on Kato's this idea of this podcast is vitally you feeling younger, growing older. And I've always said, That's not looking younger, as you grow older. It's not the exterior, it's it's the vital your vital life force. What is your vital life force? Does it have to decline just because you are aging, from a chronological standpoint? And I really believe that can be something that's available to all people, and how do we bring that to all people? And so I always ask my guests, Kate, what does feeling younger while growing older mean to you? So I would love to hear your sentiment on that question.
Kate Smith 37:45
I love that question. And actually, even as you were formulating the question, it made me think of how I turned 50 in a month. Right. I know. Welcome to the club. Yeah. It's a cool club. But I just think about how, you know, in bringing it full circle in what I do on Mondays at the clinic, literally fuels my energy for what I do the whole rest of the week. I so look forward to that, that it just, it makes me feel years younger, being there. On Mondays.
Dana Frost 38:25
I've got the Goosebumps again. That is beautiful. And that is the essence of what being vitally you feeling younger, growing older. It is being of service it is. It's having purpose. Yes. Yeah. Well, Kate, thank you so much for being on the show. It was really wonderful just to have this conversation and let it flow. And really, listeners, you know that these conversations, I like to go in lots of different directions. So thank you for coming along this conversation with us today. I really appreciate that everybody is here this week. And Kate, thank you so much for joining us.
Kate Smith 39:03
Thank you so much for having me.
Dana Frost 39:06
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