After more than a month of using the Vivoo at-home urine analysis app, I wanted to chat with Vivoo’s Nutrition and Wellness Expert, Melisa Karabeyoğlu, about my results and learn more about the parameters that Vivoo measures.
Back in episode 42 with Miray Tayfun, the founder and CEO of Vivoo, I spoke about my early experiences with the urine test strips and accompanying app. After more than a month of daily use, I wanted to chat with Vivoo’s Nutrition and Wellness Expert, Melisa Karabeyoğlu, about my results and learn more about the parameters that Vivoo measures.
Vivoo provides information in 90 seconds on 9 key wellness parameters, including hydration, ph, protein,vitamin C, calcium, magnesium, ketones, salinity, and oxidative stress. Melisa and I zoom in on my results, and I get answers about how my varied diet affects my body’s absorption of certain vitamins and minerals. Because I’ve been able to monitor my levels, I’ve made small tweaks to my supplement routine, and I feel like I’m more conscious of how my food choices affect my daily life.
Melissa explains the oxidative stress parameter in detail and discusses how stress affects the body. We also touch on the ketone measurement and how you can use the Vivoo app to ensure your body is in balance. Listen in to hear how you can have high-quality health care in the comfort of your own home with Vivoo.
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Dana Frost 00:07
Welcome to Vitally You, a podcast created to introduce you to the tools that will be your roadmap for feeling younger while growing older. I'm your host Dana frost, a wellness expert, life coach and energy medicine practitioner. Here's what you can expect conversations about vitality from the inside out with guest experts in the field of health, culture and spirituality, and solo episodes along the way from me where I do deep dives into the topics of aging, heart intelligence, energy, medicine, and your innate capacity to heal. If you want to feel younger, while growing older, this is the place for you. Welcome to the vital you podcast. I'm Dana frost your host. In today's episode, I invited vivos nutritionist Melissa to shed more light on the at home urine tracking app and how food can impact your results and your health. You might remember my guest Mariah typhoon, the founder and CEO of vivo, she was a guest in June. On our episode, we learned about this groundbreaking tracking app that uses urine samples to test nine health markers. While I've been using vivo, I've been tracking for the past month, and I've been able to inform a few shifts in diet and supplementation based on my tracking. I hope you'll enjoy today's episode. Join me in welcoming Melissa to the show. Melissa, welcome to the show, I'm really happy to have you after having spent more than a month using the vivo app. I'm excited to bring you the nutritionist for vivo to the conversation to really give us that nutritional perspective on this urine tracking app. So thank you for joining us.
Melisa Karabeyoglu 01:58
Thank you, Danna. It's wonderful to be here. The true pleasure. And I'm so happy that you were able to try out vivo prior to our podcast. Yes,
Dana Frost 02:07
it's been really interesting. So I have lots of questions for you. But let's do a refresh of the app and what it does and the parameters. What is it tracking? Can you share that for our listeners?
Melisa Karabeyoglu 02:20
Sure. Vivo, as you know, is a wellness tech innovation care company. And it does feature nine parameters and of those parameters. You know, usually we're used to just having a ketone strip or a pH strip test. But this product does feature quite a bit. So we have our vitamin C levels. We have magnesium, slowly, hydration, calcium, ketones, protein. And also we're going to be measuring our oxidative stress. So we can think of stress inflammation. So these are our parameters. Yeah.
Dana Frost 02:55
Yeah. I mean, it really is so incredible. Melissa, when I learned about this technology, I believe your team reached out to me for the podcast, and it, it really immediately caught my attention. Because I as a functional nutrition and lifestyle practitioner, I for myself, and I asked my clients to track their glucose. I asked them to track their food. So what are they taking in the mood and their poop? Because we know the poop tells us how the body is digesting and eliminating what we're giving it. So you're right on the urine. Typically, we've only been exposed at home testing for ketones and pH. And I did those for a while I found it to be like super tedious and really difficult and the vivo testing strip, you know, it's just very simple. Just for our listeners, a refresher as well, you literally it's an app on your phone, you use the strip, you're not getting urine on your hands, it's quite large, there's a place to hold it. And then you're scanning it, you're scanning the strip on an app, and then within seconds, you're getting this output. So it's really showing us what's in the urine, right? It's sowing. Yes, yes. So tell us just give us a brief, you know, few comments about those different all those different parameters?
Melisa Karabeyoglu 04:20
Sure. So that's a common question that we do get. We're very familiar with blood tests, right? We all go to the hospital once a year or once every few years and get our blood levels checked. But urine tests, a lot of health enthusiasts, like yourself, are aware of them, but they're more new on the market. It's a tool that's really bringing health care to the comfort of your own home. So you're able to check out, for instance, your vitamin C level, and we all care about our vitamin D level, especially in the winter, we're very aware. Unfortunately with COVID Vitamin C awareness really did go high but also if we're trying to To focus on skin beauty or joints and ligaments, we're very careful in our vitamin c status. But as we all know, Vitamin C is a water soluble vitamin, so it's not stored in our body overnight, such as iron, which is stored in our bones ferritin. Vitamin C does creat every day from our water supply from our fluids. So it's really good to constantly monitor this because every day we are exposed to a lot of stressors. And as we know, vitamin C can protect against a lot of oxidative stress and inflammation. So Vitamin C is one of those great pyrometers. Do you ever try the did you watch your vitamin C levels?
Dana Frost 05:42
Yes. So Melissa, I have been using the vivo app for the past. I mean, it's been more than a month, but I decided to consistently do it in the morning. Because I was doing it at different times of the day. And I thought I should be consistent so that I'm getting the same timestamp in essence, because I noticed that it seemed easily impacted by different things. And how do you compare the day versus the morning? So I was like, Okay, let's just do this, in essence, first thing in the morning, first urine sample in the morning. So I noticed with my vitamin C and Melissa that it goes, it rarely goes high, but it will go low. Or it will be you know, it's 10 out of 10. It will be which is it's fine. So that's fantastic. Yeah, it will dip low. And so I have noticed that my food intake. And so I'm just thinking about because what I've been doing lately are kiwis. And I noticed that when I don't have like I think about the vitamin C foods when I don't have them, it seems like it goes low. Or if I don't supplement with I have a like liposomal C 1000 milligrams that will supplement with. And if I'm not on that game, the vitamin C does go low.
Melisa Karabeyoglu 06:59
Yeah, that's very normal. Because, as you were saying it does change every day. The RDA, it's 90 milligrams for men and 75 for woman unless you're pregnant or lactating. But like you said, every day, it does change if we're involved with stressors. You know, for smokers, we have to add another 35 milligram CRDA. So it might be that in general, because from what I have understood, since you are nutritionist yourself, you're consuming a lot of plant based foods or you're consuming a diet full of fruit or vegetables. And like you mentioned kiwis, that's an excellent source of vitamin C. So when you are consuming kiwis, it will definitely bring it up. And if you're noticing that it's consistent, I would assume that your diet is well rounded on a daily basis. Vitamin C is more found in fruits and vegetables than other food items. So maybe that's the case for you.
Dana Frost 07:59
You know, it will dip and so what I was curious about and this really goes for all the parameters. What my anecdotal evidence showed is that there really was a difference between the testing during the day, I had better outcome. My wellness score was higher when I was doing it during the day versus in the morning. But I just wanted a consistent time to do it, which is why I chose first thing in the morning, because during the day mice, it was really hard for me to like do it consistently. Time. So how quickly are we impacting our system? And is that how quickly is it showing up in the urine?
Melisa Karabeyoglu 08:35
That's a really good question. So I guess from what you're saying there, two things we could mention the time of day, and also how quickly it does affect your test level. So firstly, with time of day, you know, vivo was developed for busy individuals, like yourself, who you know, have a life with many activities. So most of us do want to do the most important things first thing in the morning. However, when we wake up after sleeping, usually our kidneys have very concentrated urine. So we don't recommend, if possible to have our vivo users use the first time they use the bathroom, we try and do it the second time we visit the bathroom. That makes a huge difference. You might want to check that out. You can use it anytime of the day, technically. And we did it create it in such a way that it could be used at any time of the day. However, we would recommend our users to have it consistently. So if you're someone who has a very busy day you get home from work around six, seven, and then by the time you know take your strip in the bathroom, it's 9:10pm that's really no problem. You just should try and do it. You know the next day in the evening as well. Not tomorrow morning just to make it consistent. And then in terms of how I would say rapidly Our urine test can reflect what you just ate. Research says that it's between two to six hours. And, you know, the reason why this variability in terms of hours is because everyone's seresin thinking, everyone's digestion absorption, you mentioned that, you know, previously, it's really about what you're absorbing. So and it's what you're eating too, because as we know, certain substances can affect are easier to digest, and they can affect your urine, your blood sugar, rapidly versus slower. So we would say, two to six hours. So it's really fun, you know, you can monitor yourself, monitor your diet, and see how you are impacting it every day. You know, I do get excited myself. And I do do it two times a day sometimes like, I'm like, let me see if I have a really dark green smoothie full of lots of you know, calcium and magnesium that's affected. And it does work. But we recommend everyone to do it once a day if possible.
Dana Frost 11:03
Okay, that's really interesting. And I can see the two to six hours. The impact. Okay, so that's really interesting. So I think I need to change my strategy. So for anyone out there curious about using this tracker, the vivo tracker, first thing in the morning, the very first urine sample is probably not the best one to use. Yeah. Okay, so vitamin C, what are some of the other how, you know, let's talk about some of the other parameters.
Melisa Karabeyoglu 11:32
Okay, so I guess another one that we talked about, that we get asked about a lot is magnesium, it's a very valuable mineral. And it's been recently gaining a lot of awareness because of its impact on the menstrual cycle, and also its decline our food system, there's a current and gradual widespread decline of magnesium in our soils, and consequently, in cereals, fruits and vegetables. Therefore, individuals that are experienced lots of headaches or body pains and aches, might try a magnesium supplement, and it's ever happened to you, you might realize, Oh, my headache is gone, or my PMS cramps. So it's been a popular mineral on the market for supplementation. And clinical research shows that, you know, when you monitor your magnesium levels during your menstrual cycle, it does decrease PMS related symptoms, such as cramping. So and it also showed the same study that and if you want, I can send you a reference list of the study, they found that in menopausal individuals supplementation of magnesium did affects their symptoms. So this, you know, Miracle mineral on the market. So everyone's very interested in it. I always prioritize magnesium, I was always buying the supplements in the vitamin shop and taking it every day. But then, when I was in Louisville, I realized that on Sundays, I was getting enough magnesium. And that really shocked me, because, you know, we are consumers essentially, even though, you know, we're both two very educated nutrition in nutritionally informed individuals. But still, we do believe we need to supplement you know, when needed. But my diet was more than enough on certain days. And I realized that on other days, it was lower in magnesium. So I supplemented and I also saw that during my cycle, my magnesium levels were differing too. So we will really help me clue myself into my body. And I think it can really help other users as well.
Dana Frost 13:35
Melissa, I'd like to make a comment about the magnesium because I found that to be true as well. At one point in my health journey, I was deficient in magnesium, and that came through my labs. And so I've been supplementing, you know, since then, every day, and actually using vivo, I realized I didn't need to supplement as much. So it has impacted my supplementation as well. I do notice some variation. This is one of the reasons tracking is a key component if you're somebody who wants to dial into your health, you don't have to guess about it. And this is what vivo is bringing to the market is allowing us some at home, dialing into these key parameters.
14:23
Yeah, I mean, that was the essential mission is that to allow everyone to dial in, get clued in get connected with their body in a very loving, nurturing way. You know, I am a dietitian, and unfortunately, a lot of nutrition and dietitian was focused on physical appearance or weight but thankfully, within the past decade, it's been much more internally focused about our internal health. And vivo is one of those key key apps on my phone that I refer to to really connect to my body and I hope you know all user You can benefit from that.
Dana Frost 15:01
Yeah, I like that it is making that connection to the body.
Melisa Karabeyoglu 15:05
Yeah, it was a nurturing tone of voice. So that's why how it's very different. Mm hmm. We also feature calcium. And we all hear about calcium, right? We always want our kids, our parents tell us your grades your milk. And, you know, as women, we're told to constantly monitor our calcium levels for osteoporosis. And, I mean, there is truth to that, because in the United States, there's an estimated 10 million people, no 15, above who have osteoporosis. And most of them are women, only 2 million of them are men. So as women, we do have to monitor our calcium levels, yet, we're unaware really, of how much calcium we're eating, because it can really vary, you know, if you're consuming dairy, whether or not it's grass fed, or organic, really makes a difference. Also, the plant base variety sources vary in calcium levels. And we don't really know how much we're absorbing, you know, all of our bodies are so different, our ancestry is different, our gastrointestinal health and how we're absorbing it, you know, you only need about 1000 milligrams of calcium a day. And, you know, just 50 Plus is just 1200 milligrams. And research shows that most individuals are getting enough. And some research shows actually a really interesting researcher in Sweden showed that when women drink too much calcium, three cups of milk, they actually increase their risk of osteoporosis. So too much of anything can be bad. And that's why I find it really good to monitor my calcium status I saw that was when I started, you know, including much more dark colored greens in my smoothies, or in my dinners, like chard or spinach, I saw my calcium levels go up a lot. And I realized that I didn't do supplements that day. So it's really good to monitor your calcium levels and realize the variety of sources.
Dana Frost 17:03
Yeah, calcium is one of the parameters for me, Melissa, it is the most varied of my parameters. And I've never supplemented with calcium. The only dairy that I have is grass fed. No, I haven't had milk in. It's been a very, very long time, but would be really healthy cheeses and H cheeses, more goat sheep, primarily, any cheese I have is goat and sheep based. But I noticed the calcium. For me it really with the vivo tracker, it swings high, and it swings low. And so this has been a curiosity. And I have had my vitamin D levels tested recently, I had them tested in June, and they were not high. I look at functional labs numbers. So they were just at the base level for the functional range. So I'm in a healthy functional range on the low end. So I know that I know that my vitamin D isn't too high, which is one of the things that can impact calcium. So would you say that it really is this very diet that I have? Because my calcium intake probably is really varied? And that's just what's showing up in the urine? Is that what would your analysis be on that?
Melisa Karabeyoglu 18:22
I would assume that if you're not having the same thing every day, and if that's your case, and I would assume that that may be the issue? It's great, you pointed that out, a lot of individuals have very high vitamin D levels that can actually sometimes master calcium deficiency, or you know, the opposite. So I would assume that your diet is varied every day? And have you noticed that when you add no calcium rich fruits and vegetables or more beans and lagoons? Is your magnesium levels going up the next day with vivo?
Dana Frost 18:59
That's such a good question. I do think that with the magnesium that it tends to, yeah, I can see the impact. And I probably just need to dial into the calcium in terms of the food and pay a little more attention, making that connection between the calcium numbers that are the most very on the app for me and actually what I'm eating, and just see because there's no supplementation on my part with calcium.
Melisa Karabeyoglu 19:28
Yeah, that's good, because you know, there's more and more research showing that excess calcium supplementation can actually be harmful. So it's good that you're monitoring it. I would assume that sometimes also, there are certain foods substances that can interfere with other minerals absorption and this is just our body trying to protect us from excess minerals. The reason why it's so hard to get minerals like iron or magnesium or calcium naturally is Because if there's too much of them, because inflammation in the body when we eat too many minerals essentially. So when you do have foods high in iron, that can block calcium absorption. So for instance, if you were having spinach with coach with a lot of cheese, the calcium would compete with the iron and the spinach. And you know, block absorption. And vitamin C can actually enhance iron absorption, whereas calcium can decrease. So it may just be the foods that you're eating that day. And also, another really interesting aspect that we don't consider is really our gastric acid, right? Our HCL levels if we're not eating when we're hungry, and you know, we're all guilty of this, because we eat sometimes when it's practical, or when it's meal time, or when our partner's eating etc, etc, we're not able to really digest the food very well. So sometimes it's really good to supplement with enzymes, or, you know, really to wait until we are have secreting more gastric acid more gastric juices to absorb the most from the food. But for your individualized question, I would assume that it's because your diet is varied every day, which is, of course, a beautiful, beautiful thing.
Dana Frost 21:16
Yeah, thank you. That's, that's a really good point to make about the gastric juices, Melissa, I'm glad that you brought that up, because that does make an impact with absorption. So moving on to some of the other, I want to I want to touch on the oxidative stress.
Melisa Karabeyoglu 21:33
Yes, that's one of the most fascinating ones to you. I'm glad you mentioned that. It's something that we hear about all the time, right, who's not stressed. I mean, most people are multitasking, you know, I was at my friend's house, and she was cooking for her children. And then at the same time, she was talking to me, at the same time, she was, you know, trying to keep her kids safe. And I was thinking, we're under so much stress as individuals and especially modern lifestyle, right, we're constantly being competed for our attention, our visual attention. So we're getting a lot of internal external stress, and then a lot of stress from the outside. So let's first talk about how stress affects our body. And then I can explain the parameter in more detail. So oxygen is the most essential molecule we all breathe it in. And it's a strong oxidizing agent. Hence the term that I'm binding I'm going to connect with antioxidants. So oxygen molecule can basically bind to any of the free radicals that are, you know, forming in our body, and exposure to any kind of environmental pollution, toxins, pesticides, metals, even excess chemicals in our tap water supply causes free radical formation in our body. Free radicals do form on a daily basis naturally. However, when they're our usually it's at a amount that's more in a control, we'll write for our body, it's a problem when it's too much. Going back to homeostasis, too much of anything, it's not so good. So when we have too much stress happening in our body, it's really essential to have our Warriors to fight them. And usually what we always recommend as dietitians or nutritionists always have a lot of fruits and vegetables or plant based food in our diet because they are natural, you know, powerhouses and sources of antioxidants. So, I saw with my vivo strip that when I tested myself, I said, Okay, I want to who, how is the stress in my professional life affecting the internal environment of my body. And I then wanted to test how my diet was helping support my internal body fighting off my stress coming from external sources. And I saw, you know, this is a personal anecdote, I saw that when I was not supplementing not eating lots of fruits and vegetables, you know, and I was just not really focusing on my diet, but having a lot of stress. My oxidative stress levels were very high, you know, my, my white cells, my inflammation was high. And then when I was focusing on really eating lots and lots of fruits and vegetables, more and more, having more, you know, green smoothies or smoothie bowls, or just trying to snack on fruit vegetables here and there, I saw my oxidative stress go down. So it's a fascinating parameter. I mean, it's something that we didn't really know we had access to as individuals. So this is a I would say, this is like one of the breakthrough parameters for me. Yeah.
Dana Frost 24:44
Yeah, I think it's really interesting. Mine only twice so I've had a perfect score, except for two times. And I think that's reflective because I have felt stressful but I think it's reflect full of tools, food Being one tool and also the tools we have to soothe ourselves during stressful times, I think it's important to recognize that we can use a variety of tools when it comes to stress. But what I noticed the two times that my score dropped under oxidative stress I had eaten out. And I do eat out regularly. So it's not as if I don't eat out. But I actually had had meals where I was questioning, I wonder what kind of oils are being used in the restaurant and I didn't feel you know, I felt a little bit funny. My digestion felt funny. So it was really interesting to me that the next morning, my oxidative and I had alcohol too. That's the other benefit. And I do you know, yeah, I mean, I do I will have alcohol I'm, you know, I don't abstain, I don't have a lot of it. But so the confounding factors, when the oxidative stress was out of balance is when I had alcohol, and it was combined in a restaurant where digestive Lee, I actually didn't feel well, afterwards.
Melisa Karabeyoglu 26:08
Unfortunately, a lot of restaurants do not use the best quality oils. And you know, now with rising food prices, I can understand as their profit margin gets more and more smaller. So they do use a lot of highly processed vegetable oils. And, you know, like you were mentioning, that does make us feel funny when we eat them. Because it's very hard for our body to break down digests and basically assess the DNA of a foreign substance, which is made in a laboratory.
Dana Frost 26:44
So then my question is this urinalysis that comes from the vivo sample analysis through the app, it really can show that exposure.
Melisa Karabeyoglu 26:56
Yeah, it can, it's very fascinating. It's, it's about how your body is feeling internally. And, you know, like, you were mentioning, you ate out and you had two stressors for your system. They're not, you know, major stressors for a person, but maybe for you that that day, that was enough. And there is a daily marker, so perhaps, you know, let's say, if that day you had, or let's say that you had only had the alcohol, maybe it wouldn't have affected it as much. It's really cluing you into how your body's feeling. You know, we're talking about food. But other you know, you were mentioning before, there are so many ways to manage stress, right, like yoga, you know, breath therapy, they all have lowered my oxidative stress level. So yeah, we can definitely see a daily change with our oxidative stress. And it really encouraged I don't know about you, but it really encourages myself and a lot of our users then to really include more stress, therapeutic events, and then to decrease anything that's causing inflammation in their body.
Dana Frost 28:04
Yeah, I think when you can see it. This is why tracking is just really important. Because when you see it, you find the motivation to make the necessary changes, to add more fruits and vegetables. And if you're looking at a tracker, or you're you're analyzing your poop, or your urine and you see toxic buildup, you can see oxidative stress, you can see these parameters that look compromised, you're far more willing to take the effort to prepare your own food or to add in your fruits and vegetables. And yeah, I think that that's, that is the motivating factor of being able to track. So we're getting close to the end of our time together, Melissa, and we haven't covered all of the parameters. We've covered the things that I personally wanted to know. And I think it's helpful for people to hear, you know, an example of somebody who's actively using the app and then comparing it to their what they're eating. And so maybe we should just touch on the ketone because there's a ketone measurement. Yeah, the app and mine has been really steady. But I know there's so much it's a trend, and I'm not really into trendy diets. And I don't really, I'm not a proponent of the ketogenic diet for the average person, but I know it is a curiosity. So do you have any comments about the ketone marker?
Melisa Karabeyoglu 29:31
Yeah. So that's a great marker. Thanks for you know, we have a lot of users who are really interested in measuring their ketones with us. So essentially, the ketogenic diet was initially created for those wanting to have a therapeutic approach to monitoring their neuron activity. So our body relies on glucose molecules primarily, and when we don't have a lot of glucose coming in, it starts running eventually on ketones molecules, when we're running on ketone molecules, our body can go more into our fat burning mode. So that's why the ketogenic diet has gained a lot of popularity. So the reason why your ketone levels might be steady is it might be reflecting your blood glucose levels might be study. So if you are an individual with very high ketones, it might coming up in your vivo results, it might be that you're not receiving enough carbs in your body to balance out your energy output, unless you're trying to purposely elevate your ketones. And if your ketogenic level is, like you were saying, generally consistent, and at a normal level, that means that your diet has a good amount of carbohydrates, and most likely fiber to balance your blood sugar, so that you're not having an inconsistent ketogenic production of energy supply. So individuals who are interested in producing ketones for diet reasons will definitely use that feature. And they'll be consistently monitoring, you know, what is making their ketone production go high. So for our users who are interested in ever trying that you can try and, you know, decrease your carbohydrates for a day and try and make your diet 80% fat, it's quite challenging at first, and then you get used to it. And that kind of it puts your body in a mock starvation mode, and your body starts burning fat for fuel. So you can measure that with vivo strips.
Dana Frost 31:38
Well, that's really interesting. And I have mixed feelings about the about the trend for many different reasons that we don't need to talk about today. But I do you think that that is an interesting measure that is available through the app because it can show homeostasis, it can show where, you know, the body actually is in balance?
Melisa Karabeyoglu 32:00
Yeah, when you take a blood test, usually, a doctor will ask for your blood glucose levels, right, you're crossing, and then your momentary blood glucose. But a really good doctor will always look at you're likely to hemoglobin, your HPA when see. And that's a reflector of how your glucose levels are for the past three months. How much of your glucose is really glycated with your hemoglobin molecules? So another way to measure your glucose molecules, you know, you can get a glucose monitor. But when you're using ketones, it's more looking at how your body is burning the glucose molecules coming in through your diet. So it's a different approach. And it's actually very fascinating. Even if people are not interested in kids with open genic diets, and they really never thought necessary. They can also see, are they consuming carbohydrates in balance with fiber, protein and fat at the same time, because if you're just eating, you know, liquid sugar, such as soda or fruit juice, you know, you would have consistently high glucose in your blood, and then very, very low ketones. So yeah,
Dana Frost 33:10
exactly. I am so glad that you bring that up. I think that's a really important point, because you know, you really want them to be in harmonious with one another. And I am an example. I was pre diabetic. And my glucose numbers were all over the place. When I had my health crisis, diabetes runs in my family, and I been able your your food and lifestyle can dramatically impact the balance of your glucose and thus the ketones and you know, what you eat really does reflect that. So I would assume that then, with the ketones as well, you could see a rapid response in the app, based on like, one day of changing the intake.
Melisa Karabeyoglu 33:56
Yeah. Well, congratulations for you know, managing and having a beautiful health success story, firstly. And secondly, yes, it's wonderful. And and I believe the app can also be an encouraging factor to keep up with a healthy diet. Yeah, absolutely.
Dana Frost 34:12
Yes. Well, Melissa, I'm so thankful that you came and you expanded our insights on with the vivo app. And I will make sure everybody knows where to find the app and where to find you. And I really appreciate these insights. Thank you so much.
Melisa Karabeyoglu 34:29
Thank you.
Dana Frost 34:31
I can't forget even though you're very young, I cannot forget to ask you our question that we ask each guest What does feeling younger while growing older mean to you, Melissa?
Melisa Karabeyoglu 34:45
Thank you. Well, I love that question. I've been when I'm listening to your podcasts. I'm really excited to hear everyone's response. I really am interested in longevity and I believe in respecting every age and you know, I I grew up with a very big family who have very different ages. And I actually saw that as the woman, my best friend's grew older, their wisdom increased. And I saw that their health got more and more better, actually, a lot of them because of their wisdom increasing, especially with my aunt. So, for me, you know, that statement would really mean improving my spirit, mind and body at all the same time with every age.
Dana Frost 35:29
I love that. Thank you so much, Melissa, it's been a pleasure to have
Melisa Karabeyoglu 35:32
you. Thank you, Donna. It's been so nice. And, you know, we're so happy at vivo to also offer the code to any of our users who are interested, you know, it's vital 30. So, hopefully, anyone who gets very impacted by this speech, we hope that you do connect to your body by you know, downloading our app and making your purchase and seeing how your body is responding to your diet and lifestyle.
Dana Frost 36:00
Absolutely, yes, obviously, I highly recommend it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for joining me on the vital that you podcast. Don't forget to take advantage of vivos discount code. Use the code vital 30 for 30% off your first purchase. If you are enjoying these conversations, please hit subscribe and download spread the love with the review and share it with your friends. As always, I'm streaming love from my heart to yours