Leslie Kenny, founder and CEO of Oxford Healthspan, joins me to discuss the benefits of spermidine, a natural compound that boosts vitality.
Leslie Kenny is certified health coach and the founder and CEO of Oxford Healthspan. After reversing the effects of her autoimmune disease, Leslie founded Oxford Healthspan to identify clinically-safe healthy aging compounds and bring them to market as nutritional supplements. Primeadine® is the first product, a food-based, spermidine-rich supplement.
Leslie breaks down the science behind the ‘miracle molecule’ spermidine and the common benefits that it provides. She’s created a high quality, trustworthy brand that makes it easy to consume spermidine and track changes. I’ve personally noticed major improvements in the quality of my sleep, skin, and hair since I’ve started taking Primeadine®.
In our conversation, Leslie opens up about her rheumatoid arthritis and lupus diagnosis, and how she challenged the status quo when it came to managing the symptoms. Tired of the costly, painful injections, she invested in holistic treatments and managed to reverse the diagnosis. She felt so empowered and wanted to find a way to share her approach with other people struggling with autoimmune diseases.
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[00:00:00] Dana Frost: Welcome to Vitally You, a podcast created to introduce you to the tools that will be your roadmap for feeling younger while growing older. I'm your host, Dana Frost, a wellness expert, life coach and energy medicine practitioner. Here's what you can expect: conversations about vitality from the inside out with guests experts in the field of health, culture, and spirituality.
And solo episodes along the way from me, where I do deep dives into the topics of aging, heart intelligence, energy medicine, and your innate capacity to heal. If you want to feel younger while growing older, this is the place for you.
Welcome to the vitally you podcast. I'm Dana frost, your host in this week's episode, I talk with Leslie Kenny, the CEO and founder of Oxford health span, a company based out of Oxford, England, whose mission is to bridge the gap between Eastern wisdom and modern. By bringing to market high quality effective and science backed botanical compounds.
Many from the Japanese Imperial palace medical scrolls, these compounds harness, the bodies, innate ability to repair, renew, and promote longevity and increased healthspan. Now several months ago, I heard Leslie on a podcast talking about the healing qualities related to the aging process of Oxford's product.
PRI adine before the episode was over. I copied the discount code and ordered two bottles. I wish I would ordered three after learning more and experiencing PRI adine firsthand. I wanted to bring this conversation to the vitally you community. In today's episode, you're going to hear the story behind the miracle molecule sperm.
Meine the active compound in PRI adine and its benefit. You heard that right? Sperm is produced by all humans, not just men. And it's produced by plant compounds. It's found in breast milk and sperm has impressive healing properties. That's something that you might not have known. Join me and welcoming.
Leslie, Leslie, welcome to the podcast. It's a
[00:02:08] Leslie Kenny: pleasure to have. Oh, thank you so much for inviting me, Dana. It's an equal pleasure on my part. Yeah, Leslie,
[00:02:15] Dana Frost: you know, I met you through listening to podcasts where you were guesting and I got turned onto your product PRI adine and I quickly, I mean, it was the podcast wasn't even ordered.
I grabbed the, I grabbed the code. I ordered my two bottles and I'd been using it for two months. And then just getting to know you through listening to you and reading about your product. I really wanted to share your, who you are your product with this community, because I really appreciate that it's building and supporting the internal structure.
And I really appreciate that. And, and I know that for me, I've been using PRI Aine now for two months, and it's really what I notice again. I use it with the patches and my listeners know about the life. Energy patches that everything just keeps getting better. Like my skin's getting better. My mobility is better.
Yeah. My hair keeps growing and the texture is improving. So, but I would love to know Leslie, how I would love to share how your story in terms of how did you become the CEO, the founder of. Oxford health supplement company with PRI adine. And what is the trajectory of
[00:03:37] Leslie Kenny: your story? well, it, uh, it has a lot to do with systems biology and, uh, you mentioned systems and taking a systems approach to my own health challenges.
So in 2004, I had just finished with my first entrepreneurial project, which was online matchmaking and that was in Hong Kong and I was completely burnt out. I began to notice that I was having trouble with my hands using scissors, turning doorknobs, even turning the faucet and. That's really strange, who knows what it is, uh, must go to the doctor, went to the doctor fully expecting some kind of ointment Ben gay or something.
Right. uh, and the, uh, you know, or them to say that that, oh, you you've overdone, it you're typing too much or you're, you're crafting too much. And instead they came back with the phone call, please come in. The doctor needs to speak with you. And, uh, the doctor told me that not only. Did I have rheumatoid arthritis and I did understand that diagnosis, but then I, I had lupus and I didn't know what that meant.
I'd never heard of it before. These are both autoimmune conditions that commonly occur together. They also commonly occur with Hashi motors, thyroiditis, which we can now. Looking back that I've had this because I don't have much of a thyroid when we do an ultrasound. Lupus is an autoimmune condition where the body begins to attack the organs and it can also attack, you know, joints as well, but naturally rheumatoid arthritis.
That is one of the, one of the big symptoms. And when the doctor told me there's, uh, there's a drug you can inject into. Belly to suppress your immune system so that you can keep the rheumatoid arthritis under control, but there's nothing for lupus. I was astonished because in my mind at that age I was 39.
I had always just. Doctors they're like the firemen for the body. There's a fire, the firemen, put it out, doctors, you go to them and they fix you. Right. And it was only at that moment that I realized there were limitations to what doctors can actually do. And. The drugs arrived in these gigantic boxes. And I began to inject myself, which I have got to say, having been an, uh, fertility patient done lots of rounds of IVF.
I was used to injecting myself, but. I had to do this all the time. And now I was just getting bruises. Sometimes the needle it's a diet, tiny diabetic needle. Sometimes the needle would go in very cleanly, like butter, and I would try to do a visualization to make sure that it did, but other times that needle would go.
And I would just think, I know there's a bruise, there's gonna be a bruise. And sure enough, there would be a bruise. And it just, it just doesn't feel right. And I didn't like the idea of suppressing my immune system because when the doctor first. Your immune system is, uh, is very overactive, I thought, but isn't that a good thing?
Doesn't that mean it's gonna fight cancer really well. And I, I had not understand that you really need the immune system to be in the Goldilock zone. That made me think though, Hey, if I'm suppressing my immune system, what if I'm suppressing it too much? Because the doctor also told me to avoid little children who might give me calls and.
So all of these questions were Worling around in my head around can't I just bring my body back to balance. I just want my body to be in that Goldilock zone of perfect homeostasis. Not too much, not too little of that immune reaction, but just right. And I did some research. and I discovered that all of these diseases have a root cause, which is too much inflammation, which actually is one of the more recent hallmarks of aging.
And, uh, there were some diets that you could do. There was something from Dr. Berry series, uh, called the zone anti-inflammatory diet. And I did that to a tea. I was a really good student and. Made my own almond milk. You know, I went off dairy. I went off gluten and I began to feel better, but at the same time, I came across an alopathic or classical medical treatment called intravenous immunoglobulin.
Nobody seemed to know about this, but the research that I saw looked extremely promising, and it appeared that you could do one or two of these infusions. Take about four hours and the immune system would be brought back into balance. It was that word balance that appealed to me and I decided to do it.
Each one was $12,000. So it was a big, you know, people would say, wow, that's a lot of money. And it was, it was a risk. But the drugs for rheumatoid arthritis, although I wasn't paying and my insurance was paying, those are $5,000 a month. And I since calculated it would've been, I would've spent over a million us dollars.
Had I continued on those drugs, even if my insurance is paying, that's just, that is not good for society. That and it's, it would not have been good for my health. So the result of changing my lifestyle dramatically, bringing in nutrient dense foods that were anti-inflammatory, you know, lots of polyphenols and flavonoids and doing intravenous immunoglobulin was that when I retested for these, um, within six months of the original diagnoses, The doctor told me I didn't have those diseases anymore.
Now. That's just weird. When someone says to you, well, you have a disease that it's incurable, and then you, you go back and they say, oh, you don't have it. Well, then what I've been cured. And there's no treatment. So did I cure myself? how did that happen? And it was at that moment that something inside me changed, I was empowered and the small voice said, Hey, if you were able to do this, what about the millions of other autoimmune patients out there who are told that they're gonna be on these drugs forever?
Or that there is no cure and all they can do is halt the progression of their illness. So that was a, a watershed, but I was really hell bent on having children. And like you, I'm an adoptive mother and my first child is adopted and I just had to focus on taking care of. And then rather miraculously, uh, given that I'd had so many doctors tell me I was in fertile, right.
This just goes to, to show that you are not your diagnosis and you can always prove them wrong. Yeah. And at age, at age 43, I got pregnant, had a baby. And who's now about to turn 14 and. Two little kids. I was just busy. So the thought didn't really cross my mind about getting involved in healthcare and sharing this message until I had things on the home front under control.
But during this time I kept meeting people who would say to me, oh, but I've had that. And I'm on these drugs and they'd be on ENBR or Humira or something else, or even methotrexate, which is a chemo drug. And some of them wanted to have children, but they had already been on the chemo drugs, and it is hard.
Right. And I would always share my story with 'em just to. I'm proof that you can do this. You only need one piece of evidence to prove a theory wrong in this case. And now we know that there are thousands more of us who have been able to reverse our incurable illnesses, outlive the projected. Left on our biological clocks, right?
Our lifetimes simply by working with, uh, lifestyle changes and looking smartly at breakthrough science. Right. And. Those really changed my trajectory and made me then get involved with some of the scientists here at the university of Oxford who were working on those breakthrough treatments. And I would meet them on the playground because they'd have kids at my daughter's.
Schools and I would, as you do, uh, Americans are pretty outgoing and I would engage people in conversations. So what do you do? Oh, that's interesting. Tell me more. And the science was so compelling. Oxford has been described as Disneyland for academics and we have great Biosciences life sciences programs here.
Just fantastic. And, um, I started fundraising for some of these companies. and was eventually introduced to a scientist named Kacha Simon she's in immunology professor whose area of interest is the thymus. So the thymus is a gland that's right under the, uh, the bone here that turns to fat. Uh, you know, I think around 30, but it's very important to the immune.
And she was really looking at how can we rejuvenate the immune system as we grow biologically older mm-hmm . And one of the molecules she was looking at was a poly aiming that has been studied extensively called sperm Meine and it is in. We think it's in, which is sperm, but it isn't so many other things it's in all plants, all animals, all humans, you know, your aunt makes it, your children make it.
The elderly person walking down the road will make some, and we get it in our diets from things like Shai mushrooms or peas plant material has a lot, but you can also get it from things that are fermented, like sauerkraut or cheese even. Is a source of sperming and in Japan, NATO, which is fermented soybean is a really, really high source.
That would be the best source for people to take if they could. The problem is it's very slimy, uh, has just a terrible mouth feel. Someone described. I don't wanna offend anyone who's Japanese or Taiwanese because it's a delicacy there. But so I won't, I won't, I won't go into that description, but it's, it's very, it's, it's slimy.
It's like slimy, cobwebs mm-hmm , but that is a great source of it. And all of the diets in the blue zones, these are the places where they have these very healthy centenarians around the world. They get a lot. Plant material and sperming into their diet. It has been correlated with longevity and health span.
You know, there is a distinction between the two. We don't wanna just have longevity, but poor health. We want vitality and energy and mobility and good health as we get older. And sperming appears to be positively correlated with that. So Kat's. Was around potentiating the impact of say flu vaccines in the elderly.
And she was very controversial because she, she said openly flu vaccines in the elderly don't work. And yet that's where we put a lot of our money. But they don't work because elderly just don't respond well to them. However, she could see in mice that when you gave them sperming together with a flu vaccine, they had a very robust antibody response.
So she actually got a patent for this and then like many Oxford academics at the time who were asked to pay for continuing the patent, registering it and all these other jurisdictions. And that can be very, very costly. She just said, uh, I'm a scientist. I don't care. Let's set this idea free, who cares?
And so. That is now what's called prior art in the legal world. It can never be, you know, sperming can never be patented for that particular purpose or claim. Uh, so no pharmaceutical company will be interested besides which this is a food. Right. it's in the food supply. You can't patent it like you can't patent turmeric mm-hmm for inflammation.
Mm-hmm . And so she said, oh, it's, it's kind of a shame that nobody knows about this. Cuz it, people should should know. And I said, well, you need to market it. And she said, but there's no, no money for marketing because there's no pharmaceutical company that wants to get it out there. And I said, well, I used to work for the Walt Disney company and there's such a thing as a brand and we could create.
A really high quality trustworthy brand that marries these breakthrough. What I call breakthrough molecules that are plant derived that are perfectly safe. But efficacious and we could bring them to the public. We can educate them and have them try it themselves. And that's really how Oxford Healthman came to be.
That's kind of a long story, but it really started from the time that I realized that our bodies have this in. Wisdom to heal. They want to be in balance. They want to be in good health, but we need to give them the circumstances as well as the nutrients. Where those are vitamins, minerals, hormones, breakthrough molecules, like sperming, we need to give those things to the body.
And then the body says, right now I can make this right. It's like going to your mother and saying, make me a cake. And she's like, where's the flour? Where are the eggs? Where's the butter. You can't expect the body to make something without the resources. It needs to do it, but it has the knowledge there.
[00:19:13] Dana Frost: Amen. Yes, it does. The body is continually seeking homeostasis and yes, and it respond, you know, what, what I found to be true personally, and with clients. it responds to very small nods, if you will, towards it. When we wait in essence, when we wake up, like you woke up and said, I'm not okay with this as my future.
And there has to be another way. And you, you become curious. And yes, when we have that wake up, I find innately the innate wisdom of the body wakes up and begins turning towards us and saying, okay, let's do this. And you, if you do this, I'm gonna respond with this. And, and you start, you know, you can, in essence, just get in sync with the body's pursuit of homeostasis, but it's a heavy.
And it requires like for you, it required $24,000. Um, you had to make that commitment. It required changing your diet. Looking at your lifestyle. Um, so there is, you know, in essence we have to sign the dotted line that we're willing
[00:20:23] Leslie Kenny: to step up. And we, we also need to be willing to take our power back from a heavily burdened healthcare system that is used to making very standardized protocols.
It's excellent at making diagnos. The protocols are there to fit the majority of the people, but they're not going to be bespoke for you. And I wanted something personalized for me. So what's wonderful is that when it comes to lifestyle tweaks, we have the greatest supercomputer. Working with us and that's the body and the body sends signals to us continually.
And very quickly, if you know, we touch a hot stove, the body sends the message immediately stop you're burning. Right. But we have to listen to those. And so many of us have learned to override the aches and pains of aging. Mm-hmm as well. Aging's natural, right? I'm supposed to have a bad back. Everybody else.
My age has a bad back or, um, my skin's dry. My nails are splitting, but my girlfriends tell me there's are two mm-hmm or my hair is getting thin. And a lot of my friends say that too, or got the menopause muffin top. Yeah. That's that's normal. Right? If we go to our doctors and we talk about, say the menopause muffin top, they might say, well, that's aging.
Walk more. Right? And so it really takes a lot. It takes, uh, commitment from us to reclaim our personal power for our health. I think it's very important that we at least attempt to meet our doctors. Halfway. We cannot expect miracles from them. They are not miracle workers and they are not trained in Nutri.
And as a result, they do not know about these polyphenols, these anti-inflammatories, these inhibitors of the hallmarks of aging. They don't know about those. Mm-hmm because it's not taught in medical school or it's taught for a few hours or one day. Right. Mm-hmm so we cannot expect that of them. It's an enormous as, but we can, we can expect that from ourselves.
Yeah. We're
[00:22:53] Dana Frost: looking, we're looking for the answer in the wrong. Yeah, we're seeking the solution outside ourselves and the wisdom of the body it's internal. And so we're looking, and I, I understand that from a health perspective, I remember when I was having my health crisis and I was trying to, I had my pacemaker implanted and I was told you're gonna feel like you're old self again.
I just, I didn't, I was still just as tired now. My heart was pacing sufficiently, but I was still tired. And I remember waiting two months to get into this doctor. And, you know, she was lauded for her ability to put complex cases together and figure out what's going on. And I showed, I had the wrong day and time and I walked away.
I was so, so disappointed and I was crying and cuz I was like, this is gonna be when I'm gonna get some answers. And that actually I had a wake up moment of I'm looking outside of myself. Why am I waiting? Why am I waiting for another person to tell me what's going on? And it was really just this kind of supernatural experience of actually the answers are here.
I need to, I need to research more, even though I was researching, I need to take it to a deeper level. And yes. So we're looking, we're looking for a solution from a system that was not designed to give us a solution to our modern day chronic disease. Just wasn't
[00:24:21] Leslie Kenny: and not to not, they will never take a systems approach.
And this is why you have a nephrologist and you have a cardiologist and you have a neurologist and these are all siloed. And I remember when my grandmother had, uh, glioblastoma and I went back home. To her home in the Midwest to take care of her. She had to take all of these other drugs to deal with the side effects of chemotherapy.
And eventually she died of one of them, which caused her stomach to bleed, but she had so many other side effects. And then we, so we began to see doctors. To try and whackamole the side effects, right? So I've talked to a lot of people who've been put on statins who say, oh, I'm really tired. And I was, well, have you tried taking some cocuten because actually statins will deplete that.
They'll say, oh right. I didn't know. And these things, these little things need to be done in order to protect the rest of the body. And sometimes things. They're connected, right? You're a diabetic your eyes go the skin on your feet wounds below the knees. Don't heal. These are related, and yet you might see a dermatologist.
You might see, uh, you know, an eye doctor you'll see someone specifically for the diabetes. Where is that person who says, right? What's the systems pro what's the root cause here? Oh my God. The root cause is you have a problem with insulin. Can we change that? Can we move the needle with mm-hmm uh, lifestyle tweaks, like changing your diet, getting away from the standard American diet, the sad diet.
Full of things that are gonna spike your glucose that are gonna inflame you and go to sleep at a better time. Don't eat later in the day, don't eat when it's dark, uh, the work of Dr. Suchin Panda at the sock Institute, where he showed he could actually improve diabetic response by just eating when there was daylight, as opposed to at night Uhhuh and these answers.
Are much more compelling to me as a patient because they support the body in its desire to return to balance. Right. And you have, obviously you've done that yourself. I've done it. And we both clearly mm-hmm, have this deep, deep desire to. Share this message with as many people as possible, right. So that they can, can allow their bodies to come back to balance too.
Yeah. I
[00:27:10] Dana Frost: think you just have to be willing to question the
[00:27:12] Leslie Kenny: status quo. Yeah. And it's hard. It is.
[00:27:15] Dana Frost: It's hard. It is, is really hard. You just, yeah. I mean, you either, you either want it or you don't. And so if you find yourself in a situation where you're not comfortable with the, the physical situation that you're living.
you've gotta ask yourself why and what, what other outcome would I like to have? And can I identify people who are having different outcomes? Like I can identify my ancestors. They were wonderful people. I don't want their aging health outcomes, but I could identify other people. One, what do I want? And then I can identify other people who are having different.
[00:27:54] Leslie Kenny: Yes, and we are living so much longer now than our ancestors. I saw some data on, uh, Swedish life expectancy in 1800 where I believe. Women live to 33 and men to 31. And more recently that went to 79 and 81. I think women outliving men by around 5%, but that's a huge increase in life expectancy. So really the question is if we are able to bring our bodies back into balance, what can we realistically do with our own health span?
And there are a lot of breakthrough technologies as well coming out. It seems very clear. We know that children born today will most likely make it past a hundred. But what about you and me? What can we do? Mm-hmm to live our best and most vital life and what I like to call the new prime of life. And can we recapture the vitality of our youth while retaining the wisdom of this long?
Well lived life mm-hmm and finally marry the two together, youthful vitality, and. Wisdom of experience, right. Having been on the planet for a number of years and then live our best life. And I think it's possible mm-hmm cause I certainly feel like I'm doing that. I mean, I, it
[00:29:28] Dana Frost: it's possible I'm doing it.
And I look forward to many years, you know, feeling better continuing the trajectory. So I, it is possible because we are both examples of it and there are plenty of other people. So tell us about PRI Aine and. Just let us know a little bit about that product.
[00:29:48] Leslie Kenny: Well, I'll talk first about the poly aimings, which have these delightful names, sperm Meine sperming and ricing.
Please don't be put off by these awful names. They're just a marketer's nightmare, but they are vital. To human health and they are so vital that yes, they are present in sperm of any kind they're in, uh, the endosperm of grains. So, you know, that's also a type of sperm as it were mm-hmm and, uh, they are in great abundance, sperm Meine is in great abundance in human breast milk.
Why? Because. It allows the baby to grow. We need it to grow. Plants, need it to grow. There will be varying amounts of polyA means in plants, not just different ratios of those three poly means to each other, but, you know, depending on the quality of the soil, environmental factors like sun, wind rain and everything needs it to grow.
This is also true of the, what I like to call the social signifiers of youth and vitality. And that would be, uh, shiny glossy hair, long eyelashes, full eyebrows, strong nails. You know, I, I'm always fascinated. I saw my teenagers love this singer, Billy ILA, who has these super long nail. And why, why are we fascinated by that?
Well, actually strong nails, thick glossy hair, long eyelashes, you know, batting your eyelashes is, you know, flirtatious, right? Why are those social signifiers of health and vitality? Well, they are actually a sign that you have high permitting levels. And we know that sperming is very necessary for the health of our hair follicles.
And it will actually take let's simplify and say that there are three phases to the hair growth cycle, uh, antigen, which is growth catagen, which is resting intelligent, which is shedding and. Your hair only makes pigment in the antigen or growth phase and you need sperming for that. And sperming is powerful enough that it can actually with only six days of exposure, it can actually take some of those follicles that are in the shedding phase and return them to the growth.
Oh, wow. So that was an in vitro study. So that means in a Petri dish where they took human hair follicles from someone who'd had a facelift and they exposed those, uh, you know, they were able to count how many of the follicles are. Intelligent, uh, gray, uh, and, uh, then they looked after six days to then see, okay, where is this hair follicle now?
And I believe it was 28% of those intelligent then moved over to antigen. And that's only after six days. So what happens after longer exposure? So, yes, social signifiers are sperming is quite important for. But if we think about what it does under the hood inside the body, It's actually inhibiting six of the nine hallmarks of aging.
These are things like stem, cell dysfunction, mitochondrial dysfunction, you know, the powerhouses of our cells, uh, telomere loss of length. So these are, these are the ones that we're quite familiar with and all of those hallmarks or pathways down, which we age there is some overlap between those pathway.
And for instance, uh, DNA changes, epigenetic changes. These, these have a kind of crosstalk they overlap. And so if we can impact one of those hallmarks. There's actually positive spillover in the other eight, but if we can impact six, we are getting more bang for our buck. And that's one of the reasons I like sperming I also like another molecule called no builtin, which it hasn't been studied specifically for the hallmarks of aging, but it.
Triggers something called aji, just like sperming aji is the process of cellular renewal and recycling that our bodies do perfectly when we're young, but as we get older, it falls off. I like to think of, I like to think of aji as your own personal Marie condo Uhhuh. Yeah. going through the rubbish and saying, yeah, these.
Please, uh, what, we're a great fashion by 10 years ago. No longer looking good. Let's bag this up and send it to Goodwill. Right? And so that's what aji is. It's, it's a little Marie condo in every single one of your cells getting rid of the clutter. And we all know that we work better. There's less friction when we have less clutter.
And it's exactly the same for ourselves. Right. That's a great visual
I like that. He doesn't want Marie condo getting rid of the clutter don't we want ourselves to be more Z, right?
[00:35:19] Dana Frost: Yeah. Well, and there's, I call it taking out the trash in the body, you know, we, we have to have a way to take the trash out and there are. Ways to support your body getting rid of the trash.
Yeah, exactly. So PRI Aine is. The brand. Yes. Yes. Behind sperm Meine for us today.
[00:35:40] Leslie Kenny: Yes, that's right. That's right. Yeah. And, um, I had to change the name from sperming to priming because I just knew my mother would never be able to get her mouth or around that, you know, just no, that, that word was never crossing her lips.
No, she was never gonna say that. And then I thought, okay, what else can we call this? Because I'm such a big believer in this being the new prime of life, you know, life after 55, definitely the new prime I thought, why not just put it right in the title PRI Aine for the new prime of life. Right? Yeah. I
[00:36:21] Dana Frost: love that.
I think it's great. Yeah.
[00:36:24] Leslie Kenny: Wonderful.
[00:36:24] Dana Frost: Well, how can people find PRI adine Leslie, if they're interested in purchasing.
[00:36:32] Leslie Kenny: So we go through our website, Oxford healthspan.com. So it's, uh, Oxford, just like the university health and span, like the span of a bridge and very, very easy to order there. We sell in many countries around the world.
and I think you probably have a discount code as well that you can offer. I have a code.
[00:36:58] Dana Frost: Yes. I think it's by, yeah. I'll put that in the show notes. I do have a code. Thank you so much.
[00:37:03] Leslie Kenny: Yes. Yeah. And I always say the proof is in the pudding. We're certainly not the cheapest, but I've never seen reviews where people said, oh, you know, I'm noticing that some of my gray hair.
Have dark, uh, pigment at the roots or I'm getting my original blonde, uh, coming in in these new baby hairs that are growing in. I've never seen that in reviews of other sperming companies. So it's worth trying if you're interested and, uh, and giving it, you know, a good three. Whirl. And then if you've got a wearable tracker, like an aura ring, or I've got two, actually I've got a bios strap as well.
Generally people see changes to their deep sleep and some see it on the very first night. So that's the, the way to measure it. See if it helps you, you know,
[00:38:06] Dana Frost: I didn't mention earlier when we were talking, but sleep. Um, my sleep keeps getting better. And I, I have to say that, that there has been a degree of improved sleep since I've been using it.
[00:38:19] Leslie Kenny: Ah, fantastic. Yeah, that will be because, uh, there's new research out of Korea and Japan, which shows that there is the polyA means actually impact. Two of the eight clock genes, a great name for these genes that talk to the super charismatic nuclei deep in the brain that regulates our circadian rhythm.
So, uh, you know, bottom line sperming has an impact positive impact on resetting. Circadian rhythm. And, uh, we all know that after, or even, you know, before menopause sleep gets worse, part of that will be due to loss of progesterone for us women. But for both men and women, there is a dysregulation of the circadian cycle and our waking time goes up.
So we may put ourselves to bed at the same time. We always did before. We just can't get to sleep. And, uh, that is due to this dysregulated, um, circadian cycle, which happily now seems somewhat resettle with, um, with these poly aimings. Well, that's wonderful
[00:39:34] Dana Frost: news. So Leslie, thank you so much for being a guest and sharing there's so, so many more things I wanted to talk to you about, but I think this was a, a wonderful introduction and I would love to know.
Thank you. What feeling younger. Yeah. You're welcome. Thank you. What does feeling younger while growing older mean to
[00:39:52] Leslie Kenny: you? I think as I said earlier, it's really. Having the wisdom of a long life and the vitality of youth together at exactly the same time. How fantastic, because it's like getting a Doover in life.
I made so many mistakes when I was young. I dunno about you, but I was just, I might have been young and vital, but God, I was dumb, you know, I just, how did I make those, these stupid mistakes? And of course, you know, parents will say, oh, you shouldn't do that. And of course I did do those things. And now, um, you know, we're in this wonderful position of having.
Having this, uh, you know, this terrific wisdom and experience and vitality too, all for the new prime of life. So get out there and enjoy it. That
[00:40:50] Dana Frost: is awesome. Yes. Thank you so much,
[00:40:52] Leslie Kenny: Leslie. I love that. You're very welcome. Dana. It's been a real pleasure talking to you.
[00:40:58] Dana Frost: Thank you for joining me on the vitally podcast.
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