Registered dietitian and author Camille Martin and I dive into the power of following your inner guide and living your truth.
I’m joined by Camille Martin, a registered dietitian and public health writer. Camille is on a mission to help people release themselves from diet culture so that they can live freely and authentically. Her book, Love To Lose: Love Your Life and Watch the Weight Lose Itself, explores how to make permanent lifestyle changes to lose weight for good and reach your full potential.
Camille and I both grew up during the era when low-fat and high-carb diets were all the rage. Camille started dieting at the age of 12, which eventually led to struggles with eating disorders and body dysmorphia as an adult. She learned to ignore her inner guide and follow what society expected of her. She married a man who she knew wasn’t the right person for her, and stayed married for 17 years until she reached her breaking point. Camille shares her advice for people who are in a similar position and dives into some of the wisdom she’s gained on the other side of divorce.
We discuss how midlife is really an opportunity to wake up and course correct. We’re both big believers that it’s never too late to tune into your intuition and follow your biggest dreams. Camille wakes up everyday and asks herself one simple question: am I happy? She structures her day around what’s going to push her towards her goals and help her thrive, which is something that supports her in her journey to feeling younger while growing older.
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[00:00:00] Dana Frost: Welcome to Vitally You, a podcast created to introduce you to the tools that will be your roadmap for feeling younger while growing older. I'm your host, Dana Frost, a wellness expert, life coach and energy medicine practitioner. Here's what you can expect: conversations about vitality from the inside out with guests experts in the field of health, culture, and spirituality.
And solo episodes along the way from me, where I do deep dives into the topics of aging, heart intelligence, energy medicine, and your innate capacity to heal. If you want to feel younger while growing older, this is the place for you.
Hi everyone. Welcome to the VI leu podcast. I'm Dana your host coming to you from Chicago for this very special week because you know what it is officially my birthday week. My birthday is one week from today, Sunday, July 31st and in the frost family one day is certainly not enough to celebrate when it comes to birthdays.
So next week I will be coming to you solo for a birthday episode. I would love to hear from you. Do you have any request for this special solo episode? Send me an email or a direct message on Instagram before Tuesday, July 26th. 12 noon with your questions, suggestions, or. So this week you are in for a treat because you are going to listen in to a gal to gal conversation between myself and Camille Martin.
Camille is a registered dietician author recovered chronic diet. But, you know what? Most importantly, she is a woman who took a courageous leap in her life and set herself free from cultural and familial expectations. Camille was raised in the south at a time when Southern women in her circle had a script.
This was it. Go to college, get married, have children, and spend your life in service to your family and your community. Y'all we were supposed to talk about her book. Love to lose, love your life and watch the weight lose itself. But I am going to tell you, we got way more juicier than her book. Stay tuned to hear one woman's journey that started with dieting and body dysmorphia at the tender age of 12 to a woman in her fifties who was on fire about setting big goals so that women don't get mired in living a small life.
Camille, thank you so much for being on the vital U podcast. Welcome to this week's episode. I'm really excited to have you.
[00:02:42] Camille Martin: Thank you so much, Dana. I'm so happy to be here.
[00:02:45] Dana Frost: Yeah. So Camille has written a book. It was published in 2020 mm-hmm and it's called love to lose. And we just decided listeners that we have a lot in common we're of the same, you know, decade I'm 56 Camille's 53.
And we're really talking to. Listeners out there who are 50 and older, because when, you know, the world really shifted when we, for women 50 and older, and I would say probably like the 50 to 80 year old, I'm thinking my mom is almost 80. And so I would put her, she was an adult during this phase when there was a NOFA phase.
No fat carbs were big. And, you know, we were removing a lot of the really nutritious whole foods, fat foods, and we were substituting them and we were told it was healthy for us, for Marons and everything, low fat, and actually said to Camille earlier, I wasn't really raised in a home like that. My dad grew up on a farm and so we had home milk and, you know, nothing was really fat free in my home.
We're gonna let this conversation flow and really speaking to those women in that age range, in terms of perceptions about what is it to feel younger, growing older, and what are the things that happened to us when we hit this, this slippery. Slope of midlife. How do we move forward? And Camille, I know you have so much to share with us.
So why don't you just tell us a little bit about yourself and what were some of the things happening to you as you hit midlife?
[00:04:27] Camille Martin: Sure. Well, um, Let's see, in terms of weight loss, that's sort of where my whole business got started. I'm a dietician and I'm a, uh, public health writer and editor for the CDC.
So my beginning of doing what I'm doing now started as nutrition only and health and, you know, losing weight and that kind of thing. But it's grown into so much more because of my own personal journey starting way back when, when I was about 12 years old and I started dieting. Way back then. And, um, I'm laughing when you're talking about margarine and fat free and high carb and everything was just preservatives and, you know, substituting a bunch of chemicals for the actually really healthy stuff that we weren't aware that was healthy.
All we were saying is it's fat. It's gonna make you fat. And right along that same time, um, that I started diving because it was all around me. There was. The conversation in my house changed from, I was, you know, a young girl, active gymnastics, dancing, swimming, all of these things. And I ate whatever I wanted to eat whenever I wanted to eat it.
And then all of a sudden, at a certain point, you know, right when I got my period, it was like, oh, Don't you can't eat that. That's gonna make you fat that's fattening. You better watch that you don't wanna eat too much of that. So it was really confusing. And so long story short, I started dieting when I was 12 and then that set off an entire, you know, 25 year obsession to look perfect and to lose the same 10 pounds over and over and over again.
And, um, led to an eating disorder. It led to lots of other, um, Crazy psychotic food issues. And I would say body dysmorphia and self hatred and body shame. And, you know, it's, it's all, as we were saying before we even got started, all of this is connected, you know, dieting, body image issues, female sexuality, and, and suppressing that shoving your voice down, being small, living small, not standing up for yourself, putting up with things that you shouldn't put up with being a people pleaser saying.
Yes to everything. All of this is like just a cancer on our culture, and we're all becoming aware of it now, which is wonderful, but it really came to a head for me a few years ago when I went through a divorce and I had been married for 17 years. And if you had asked me, I mean, I think anybody would say this, but when I first got married, that if you had told me.
That I would've ever been divorced. I would've said there's no way ever. I will never get divorced because you just stay in it. And because there's nothing that we couldn't work out, there are things we can't work out. no. And there's, and I realize now looking back, it was a horribly painful experience and we're better now.
Apart. And we're, co-parenting our kids really, really well and hopefully, and all that. But, um, I can look back now and see all of that. The dieting, the, you know, all the issues I just named were all wrapped up in me getting into a relationship, getting married because I was supposed to get married because I married.
Yeah. I don't know if you're using video. I'm doing air quotes, the right guy on paper. And he's a, he's a nice guy. We were just horribly wrong for each other, but I spent 17 years being quiet and not saying, you know, don't talk to me like that. Or I don't wanna do that. I don't wanna go on vacation there. I don't wanna hang out with your friends time.
It, it was like a pressure cooker that finally. Blue. I think that
[00:07:59] Dana Frost: you're touching on a lot of points that women, again, speaking to those women, 50 years old and up can relate to we're talking to a different generation when we talk about younger women. So for this group, myself included, what for you? What was that eye-opening moment when you realized this is life, it doesn't matter if it's the marriage or the diet or the job or whatever, all of that people pleasing the conditioning.
What was the moment for you when you realized this? Whatever it was is not working for me, this is not working for me. What was that moment for you?
[00:08:42] Camille Martin: well, it's interesting because when we had gotten to a point where we knew it was either where we knew we had to be in therapy and that this was very serious and that we were, you know, not gonna be able to fix things unless we went to a therapist and really got down to business, he moved out of the house and the morning after he moved, I literally woke up.
And started walking down this little hallway, into my kitchen to get my coffee. And I felt this just like I could breathe like this massive relief of like, I'm so it was like, I was free and it hit me immediately. I don't wanna be married to him anymore. And right after I heard that, I was like, no, I mean, we have two kids.
There's no. So what the question you're asking me is when did I know? And the reason why I said it's funny is because that was my intuition speaking loud and clear, and it also spoke to me 17 years prior to that when I was dating him and. I'll try to tell this quickly, but I was 32 years old. All my friends had been married.
They were already having kids. Everyone was like, what's wrong with not what's wrong with you, but like, aren't you seeing someone why, you know, is there anyone special? Don't wait too long. Don't you? Do you wanna have kids? All of this,
[00:10:04] Dana Frost: you were raised in the south. Am I right? I hear
[00:10:06] Camille Martin: your accent. Yes, it was absolutely.
And it's like, you can think like right now it's like, well, you know, you don't have to get married, but 17 years ago from the family I grew up in and the place I grew up in, why are you not married? Is there something wrong with you? You know, and I really thought there was. And so when I started dating him, he's cute.
Very smart. He came from a very nice family. Went to the right college, was in a fraternity. The whole thing, he me, it was the mirror image of. My life was growing up and he's a great person. I'm this is what I mean, he's not a bad person, but we were dating. And I remember thinking, hearing that voice, are you gonna be okay with this for the rest of your life?
It was like, seriously, someone Dana was standing next to me saying it. And it was like, where did that come from? And then it was like, I made a deal. I said, I can be okay with this for the rest of my life, because the alternative is, you know, I don't know, like I can't continue to be living in this culture in my little immediate world and not be doing what everyone thinks I should be doing, because that would be too painful now it's not, but
[00:11:13] Dana Frost: it was.
Well, I think Camille, I really want to highlight a few of these things because I know every woman in this age group can relate where, you know, today on social media, we hear listen to your intuition. Your heart is intelligent. You know, that inner voice pay attention to it. It's real well, that really wasn't the case back then for women, we weren't educated.
We weren't hearing. That that was a voice that was valid. Right. And I think it's just so vitally important to pause here, to recognize. We have, I call them nudges. Don't ignore the inner nudges because it is the inner guide. It's your wise inner teacher and yeah, it's never, it's never too late. I mean, ever, it's never too late to begin listening to the wise inner teacher.
Never. And it's interesting to hear you say, you can go back to 17 years prior to that point and you remember hearing. That wise inner teacher
[00:12:17] Camille Martin: mm-hmm yeah, I did. And I, I shoved it down and I said, I'm okay with this. And it's hard to talk about because I have these two beautiful children that we share together.
And I wouldn't change anything obviously, and I'm not sorry that I married him and. But it's such a, it's so, so important. And I think it's hard for women to listen to their inner God, because we're so used to being shoving our own voice down just like daily, like physically shoving it down, like silence yourself, be quiet.
I shouldn't say this. You know, I'm gonna sound like I'm being. Opinionated or obnoxious, or I, you know, I just want everyone to feel good. I want everyone to be happy. So if we can't even feel comfortable saying what we wanna say daily, how are we gonna listen to inner wisdom? You know, mm-hmm , and there's so many distractions, but if you can get tuned in it's there, and really all you have to do is two things.
I think. Every so often throughout the day, just get quiet for a minute. You don't, you don't have to force yourself like ask yourself all these questions, just sit there. And the more you do that, the more you practice it, the more you will hear your intuition speak to you. And when it does just listen, you don't always have to, you know, it's not some big thing like, oh gosh, I don't wanna listen to my inner wisdom, cuz it's gonna tell me I need to divorce my husband and run off and move to, you know, Africa and never see anyone again.
That's not what's gonna happen, but you gotta just honor it, tune in, let it speak and then make choices based on.
[00:13:50] Dana Frost: I think that's a really very simple, practical words of wisdom. And I always say it always starts with getting quiet. It always starts with that silence with yourself. We have so many distractions.
We have so much propaganda telling us. What to say, how to believe. What's the latest thing that we need to be in support of how to look, how to dress. We have so many voices coming at us all the time, and really, I always say everything you need is within you for your own healing. Yeah. We might need, like, from I'm coming from the functional nutrition lens, you know, we, we may need a prop.
We may need some specific. Food or supplement or, you know, some Mo modality, but really in the essence, everything we need is within us.
[00:14:44] Camille Martin: It's so true. It absolutely is. And, um, yeah, it's just hard to you're right. We're inundated with all of this information. And especially when it comes to health, I am a dietician and I of course know and promote that food.
It can be so healing and it, you know, whatever you feel your body with is creating the body that you have as an instrument to relate to the outside world. And. Fueling your body with crap. You're not gonna think clearly. Mm-hmm, see. Clearly you can't listen to your intuition when you're Downing junk food, cuz you know, you're you're off.
But I will say that I think we have gone way overboard in nutrition and health with focusing on all of these like specific nutrients and you know, which exact nutrients am I getting and you know, counting carbs, fat grams, macros, all of this stuff. It's important, but I think we have lost sight of what we're talking about here is that if you start listening to what your body is actually asking you for, instead of being bombarded with all this information and having all these distractions around you, that like, what do I choose?
What you know, what to eat your body knows what it wants. I try to tell people, I don't like to talk about food when people say, what should I eat? I say, I'm not gonna tell you what to. It's not a big mystery for one thing, we all know what to eat and unless you're a professional Olympic athlete like tweaking, you know, the all of the little individual nutrients to make your body into a perfect machine.
It's like, let's just be quit, freaking out over every single thing about food and about health. Like know the basics and you pretty much already do listen to what your body. Calm down, get centered and yeah, we're just making it way harder than it needs
[00:16:33] Dana Frost: to be. Well, I think what you said tells me it becomes another obsession.
And so we are trading potentially. You could say we're trading the diet culture. For an obsession about perfection in terms of the healthy stuff.
[00:16:49] Camille Martin: Yes. It's called orthorexia. Have you? I didn't know that, but I looked it up because I just did a blog post about people being obsessed with eating perfectly. I think it's in the DSM.
It's like, it's a, it's a mental condition. Like yeah. It's cause it does take people so far off track that, um, mm-hmm .
[00:17:06] Dana Frost: Yeah. So I wanna just take us back to that point in your life, because I know, you know, we all have the moments that really change us forever. And oftentimes I really believe what I've, what I experienced in my own life.
And what I experience from clients and friends is that midlife really is that opportunity to wake up mm-hmm . And so, you know, in this moment, After your husband has moved out and you're there and you hear that wise inner teacher, and you feel the weight lifted when you were saying it. I felt it energetically.
Yeah. And you feel that lightness that it's like, this is the way when we feel light, we know this is the way walk in this way. Yeah. It's the way there is no burden. And so when you felt that I kind of had a feeling that you were gonna say, but. I knew that was true, but I knew I then had to keep working on my marriage.
[00:18:05] Camille Martin: Is that right? No, that is what I said. I was like, I can't, you can't leave. You cannot get a divorce. As if you can't do that and you can, you totally can. And it was just a lot of religious and cultural Southern cultural brainwashing, and you gotta stay in it for the kids. My parents, at that point, they knew something was really wrong.
Cuz I kept going home back to my home state to visit for, you know, like a week at a time. And they were like, what is going on? And then I said, we are having real problems. And they both said, you have got to work it out for those kids. So. I did not listen at the beginning, we went through therapy, but then over time, it just, it's a long, long story.
But over time I finally just realized I'm not doing this. I, I really, almost physically couldn't I couldn't talk to him like just our relationship was. So he was, you know, it was like gas lighting and all of these things. And I finally just flew up one day mm-hmm I went completely crazy. Actually, we were on the phone and I.
I was out in my front yard, like screaming and dropping FBOs. And my neighbor came out to see like, is someone being murdered in the front yard, but it was seriously Dana 17 years of not saying boo, like not even saying. don't talk to me like that. I lost it. And I just said, I'm not, you know, I'm not doing this anymore.
I want a divorce.
[00:19:28] Dana Frost: Yeah. Yeah. And that's, what's gonna happen eventually, whether it is the body breaks down, we either break down mentally or emotionally or physically. We have a breakdown and, and the system. just gives way. And so that's what happened to you. So what would you say to a woman out there? Who, and, and there, there, it could be a man too.
I don't mean to single out the, the women, but what would you say to that person out there who is kind of having that moment where. They're ready to explode,
[00:20:04] Camille Martin: I will say. Um, and actually just really quick, it's funny when you said the body we'll start breaking down at this same time when all of this was happening, I started having seizures.
So like grandma seizures, like. I got taken away in an ambulance on our spring break. We were at the hotel pool and I had a seizure and I woke up, I didn't know where I was. So is that crazy? Like, I don't know how I didn't completely like either, you know, have a heart attack and die or do something totally crazy and go off the deep end, but my true self, what was happening.
And this is what I say in my, I said it in my book, I think, but like a midlife crisis is not, you know, like. We're all crazy and like, oh, I just wanna reconnect with my youth. I think a midlife crisis is that the person I was living or pretending to be. Is not the real me. So now all of a sudden, this is the real me, the me that was saying go F yourself.
I'm not putting up with your shit anymore and I don't wanna be married to you anymore. And I'm hanging up the phone. And that was the real me who had just had enough. But, you know, I mean, like we're not all like, oh, I'm having a midlife crisis and I'm a, I'm doing crazy things. We were doing crazy things before, which meant we were living an inauthentic.
That did not align with who we really are. That's what it is, you know? And that's
[00:21:26] Dana Frost: the wake up call that is the wake up call of, Hey, this isn't you. And that why her teacher is saying this is you. Listen to me. Yes, yes. Um, together we can.
[00:21:40] Camille Martin: Absolutely. And when I got, I was going through the divorce in North Carolina, you, you have to wait a year before it's final, but I'd moved out.
I got my own little townhouse with my daughters and I was, so it was such a massive relief. That's how I knew it was right. Is that the moment I moved out and got my own place. And I was like, I felt like a new person. I felt like I just had. You know, been through a Zen meditation. I was free. And my neighbor who I met, who was also divorced, just one of my dearest friends.
Now she would, I would be like, but, but I have to do this and I have to make sure of this. And I ha and she's like, wait a minute. Why? She's like the only question you have. every day is when you wake up. Am I happy? If the answer is yes, you keep doing what you're doing. If the answer is no, I'm not happy.
This doesn't make me happy, then don't do it. That's it. And do you know how freeing it is? I know, you know, cuz you're doing this. You're like, you know, fully engaged in this kind of investigation of life, but it is so freeing literally. And it's the easiest thing. Do I wanna do this? Like write down to, I need to call my brother.
I've gotta call him. I don't wanna call him. I don't like talking to him on the phone. Okay. So don't why do you have to
[00:22:56] Dana Frost: call him and Camille you have just said. That's what it is to feel younger, growing older when you drop the weight of all the shoulds. Yeah. You actually do feel younger as you're growing
[00:23:11] Camille Martin: older.
Absolutely. I've never felt better in my entire life. My business has, when I had this idea to write that book, I had it for 10 years. and I kept saying, I really wanna write a book to teach women how to lose weight without dieting. And I never was gonna write that book if I had stayed in that marriage.
And now here I am. I'm like podcast. It's turned into something completely. It's taken on a life of its own because I'm different now. And you asked me a minute ago. See, now you shouldn't have asked me to tell you all this personal stuff, cuz now I can't, I can't stop talking and I'm like sitting here.
That's good. It's
good.
[00:23:50] Dana Frost: I like
[00:23:50] Camille Martin: it. Going on and on. But what I would tell a younger woman is you do not have to do anything. Anybody says, I don't care who said it, if it was your priest or your father or your boss, you really, and truly do not have to do anything that does not make you totally happy. And so the pain, it feels painful to say, here's what I want, but I promise you the pain of not saying what you want added up over time is so much worse than, you know, offending someone or maybe hurting someone's feelings, or they might think this about you.
I swear of God. I had 17 years of bullshit that just exploded. and it didn't have to. So no one told me these things when I was 30 and getting married 32. And now that I'm 52, almost 53. I wouldn't go back to 18 or 20 or 30 for all the money in the world. I've never felt so good. And I want every woman, especially my daughters to know these things so that they don't have to go through the misery of trying to live for other people.
Cuz it'll backfire. It will blow up in your. Or you'll get cancer and you will die. you know what I, yeah,
[00:25:05] Dana Frost: I do know what you mean. Yes, I do. And you know, I think when Camille, when I started coaching, I was living in Brazil and this was in 2007. And I remember learning in my training, this idea of the body compass and how your physiology, it has no story.
Like your brain has a story, it attaches a story and it, and it's where you. I should do this. I shouldn't or it's okay. Or it's not. Okay. You know, it follows the norm. The education, the culture and the body is just responding in agreement or out of agreement and you're down, you know, that's how your muscles respond, constriction or flow.
Yeah. And I remember in those early days of coaching and the pushback from women would be that feels selfish. I can't do that. That's selfish. Well, I'm a mom and, and I've got these responsibilities or my job demands this. And if I, if I speak up or if I. Don't do what I'm supposed to do. That's selfish, taking care of myself is selfish.
I can spend $10,000 on my kids for, you know, some sort of special academic or sport training, but I can't do that the same for myself. So I think that this is such a pertinent conversation because if we deny, deny, deny, deny, deny ourselves. And we put our hand over our mouth repeatedly. It will blow.
[00:26:34] Camille Martin: Well, it's to me, it's selfish to not do those things.
It's selfish to do that to your family because you're just giving them the cardboard cut out version of yourself. You know, the watered down version, the sad, quiet, timid version of yourself, and that's selfish because your kids. And your family are not getting the best version of you. Like the most glittering sparkling version of you.
I'm not talking about like, oh, I wanna be my best self today. It's like, you are so powerful and could just unleash all of this beauty and brilliance and glory out into the universe. And we're all sitting in our house, you know, counting calories and how many macros and all of this shit. And it's. We are withholding from the world and the world is suffering because of all of us doing this.
So we need to get together. It makes me angry. Because of my personal story, because I know what a tragedy it would've been from that marriage to have continued. And then I never would've written the book or I never would be talking to you. And maybe somebody right now is listening to this and saying, you know, with tears in her eyes, I don't wanna be in this marriage either.
This is, this is not, not for me. And I need to do what's right for me. Guess what? My kids are thriving because I am not holding myself back anymore. You know? That's a great
[00:27:55] Dana Frost: word. Yeah. So how, so you actually have touched on how your life has really opened up. I think that that can be the fear, whether it's divorce or quitting a job, any, you know, or making a move or whatever.
However, your Wisener teacher has been knocking at your, the door of your heart and you've been silencing it or just like keeping it at bay. You know, when we listen and we open that door and we say, Because physically the muscles begin to relax. And then, like you said, you were having seizures. That is an electrical system, a nervous system.
That's like, I can't even take it anymore. Yeah. And so it's, it's the blown, you know, the wires are blowing and I just, all I can do, I've just gotta let off your system was letting off steam.
[00:28:47] Camille Martin: Yeah, it was crazy. Yeah. Mm-hmm and I do think that is connected. Yeah. Mm-hmm
[00:28:53] Dana Frost: and so what happens when we relax, energetically, everything shifts, everything shifts the way people see us, the opportunities we receive, we are able to be creative.
We're we, we become open when we are in a situation where we are obliging the world, other people. The system is, is closed down because it's not, it's unnatural in many ways. Wow. So we're kind of nearing the end and. Really thinking about what, how we wanna end this. That's kind of where I'm like, well, how do we wanna end this?
We've said so much. We've said so much. And I don't know. Do you have anything else that you would like to share? Camille, let me just see if there's something that you're like, Hey, I really wanna share this and you're not
[00:29:41] Camille Martin: asking. No. Well, I always say that setting a big goal is a way to sort of break out of all of this mental, um, you know, the weight that we've got carrying around from culture, from society from, um, you know, and we're getting all of this input and we've got all this brainwashing that we've gotta try to break through and get out of.
And it's hard. So what I tell women to do is. To sit down with a journal, go somewhere. Quiet, go sit outside. And um, sometimes people I can see them, you know, their eyes glazing over when I say, get a journal. Cause they're like, oh God you're, are you gonna make me meditate and go write, write stuff down. And I'm like, just, it's supposed to be fun.
So go sit somewhere quiet. Think about when you were growing up, what did you love? What were you excited about? Like, oh, I, one day I wanna grow up and I wanna. I wanna have my own jewelry line. Like I love putting together bracelets there's, whatever it is, speaking French traveling and just make a list.
Don't sense to yourself, make a list of all these things that just bring you joy and then pick one and then set a goal. So like, if your goal is, I would always wanted to live in France. That's my that's, would've been a goal of mine, but I never did anything with it. And it is not too late. It's absolutely 100% never too late ever.
And then take that goal and write down as many tiny little steps, big and small, but better. If they're small, break it down into all these. Steps. And then just start, you know, order 'em in the way that would make sense for you. And then tomorrow, like, keep this walk around with this sheet of paper, with your goal on it.
Keep, you know, treasure it and take one step every single day. Because what that does is that it reminds you that you are allowed to dream. You're allowed to quote unquote, be selfish and do something for yourself. You are. Capable of achieving bigger goals than you give yourself credit for. And you deserve to have joy in your life.
So, you know how it's, I think it was mother Teresa. If you don't bring me to an anti-war rally, but if you bring me to a pro piece rally, I will come, you can't fight negatives, but you can, by in introducing something positive, it just, it just blasts all that away. So like losing weight, counting calories, cutting carbs, you know, how many steps did I take yesterday?
Or. All of this crap, you know, you don't have to worry about what you're eating, set a big goal, let that energy and excitement spill over into your health. And it will. So that's what I've, that's what I say.
[00:32:17] Dana Frost: I love what you just shared. Process the tool is so powerful. The woman who trained me in coaching, Dr.
Martha Beck calls it a wig. Oh, really? A wildly improbable goal.
[00:32:31] Camille Martin: You trained with her personally. Yes. As a life
[00:32:35] Dana Frost: in my coaching. And so that, that is such a powerful tool. And you said. Write down the tiny little steps that need to be taken because the tiny steps, and I believe she proved this in her research, the tiny steps you're going, you can achieve tiny things.
You can achieve a million tiny things, but if you have one, if you just look at the, you know, that big goal, you're thinking. I'm never gonna achieve that. Right. But if you just start writing down little tiny steps, you'll achieve those little tiny steps, energetically. It totally shifts. So I am so glad that I was led to say, what do you want to share?
because it's really powerful. That is a super
[00:33:18] Camille Martin: powerful process. It, it really is. And it you're right. I'm all about getting small winds. Like, you know, if you say I'm gonna climb Mount Everest, well, you're screwed. But if you say, you know, I can go buy some hiking shoes, I can get online and check on flights and I can, you know, and like one little step leads to another and you're right.
It's like the energy shifts. And people will be led to you. And, um, it nothing's a coincidence. Also your big goal today will always say your big goal today will be on your to-do list tomorrow just to check it out. Cuz I mean like your big goals will turn it so much bigger than you could have ever imagined and you're gonna be achieving left and right.
And you're not gonna give a. Rip about how much you weigh and you'll start losing weight because you'll just be happy. And like you're gonna be too busy and too excited about life to sit around going. I'm gonna try not to eat ice cream in front of the TV later. I mean, you're gonna be in a totally different zone.
Mm-hmm so
[00:34:12] Dana Frost: I love that framework, Camille, I think that that's, there's so much wisdom here and the framework of focusing on the positive. Versus controlling. And, and so really what you're saying is give up control of these little small minded areas. And take control of chasing something that in essence is bigger than you.
Yes. Demands more of you is life giving it, opens everything up. I think that I just, I really love our conversation. So I have one more question for you. What does feeling younger while growing older mean to you, Camille?
[00:34:54] Camille Martin: I wanna phrase this in the positive. I was about to say it means I don't care what anyone thinks about me, but , it means to me that, um, gosh, that I just, I wake up every day and I value, I value how I feel.
I value what's important to me and I don't live my life based on. What everyone else wants from me. And because of living that way, I feel younger and it makes you look younger and act younger. And. Yeah, we might be like reversing the clock and we don't even know it, but live, live authentically. Be yourself.
Totally.
[00:35:31] Dana Frost: I love that. Thank you so much, Camille. I just, you you're welcome. Really appreciate everything that you've shared
[00:35:37] Camille Martin: today. Thank you for having me
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