I’m joined by Miray Tayfun, the co-founder and CEO of Vivoo. Listen in to learn how testing and tracking your urine can have a major impact on your journey to feeling younger while growing older.
I’m joined by Miray Tayfun, the co-founder and CEO of Vivoo, the world’s first wellness tracker that uses at-home urine tests to provide instant personalized nutrition and lifestyle advice to its clients. The easy-to-use test strips and app provides information in 90 seconds on 11 key wellness parameters, including hydration, Vitamin C, sodium levels, urine pH, ketones, oxidative stress, and kidney function.
If you're curious about your health and want to know what’s really happening in your body, I can’t recommend Vivoo enough. One of the main pillars of Vitally You© is being proactive and course-correcting before disease takes over, and Vivoo is such a helpful tool for that. I dive into data points from my recent test and explain how it immediately impacted my food and supplement choices.
Miray and I discuss why it’s important to understand what the body is excreting, how Vivoo contributes to a strong mind-body connection, and scenarios where having data from a urine test would be helpful. Miray also shares her recommendations about the optimal time of day and frequency of testing, and talks about her personal approach to using Vivoo. Listen in to learn more about how testing and tracking your urine can have a major impact on your journey to feeling younger while growing older.
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[00:00:00] Dana Frost: Welcome to Vitally You, a podcast created to introduce you to the tools that will be your roadmap for feeling younger while growing older. I'm your host, Dana Frost, a wellness expert, life coach and energy medicine practitioner. Here's what you can expect: conversations about vitality from the inside out with guests experts in the field of health, culture, and spirituality.
And solo episodes along the way from me, where I do deep dives into the topics of aging, heart intelligence, energy medicine, and your innate capacity to heal. If you want to feel younger while growing older, this is the place for you.
Welcome to this week's vitally you podcast. I am thrilled to share this conversation with you. This week. I was recently introduced to VU a health tracking app that uses at home urine test to provide instant. Personalized nutrition and lifestyle advice. I have personally found the vivo urine tracker insightful enough to purchase a year's worth of tracking.
Vivo was generous to give you the vitally U community, a discount code. And I am sure you are gonna take advantage of. Vital 30 for 30% off your first purchase by the end of this episode. Now, let me tell you the VU app adds another metric for those wanting to have dominion over their health outcomes. In my functional nutrition and lifestyle practice, we don't rely on labs if we don't have to, but we do place an importance on other tracking data.
We track food. Mood poop and glucose levels. Data provides the knowledge and information that fuels lifestyle changes. When we make these neurological connections between what we eat and our mood and symptoms and glucose levels, or the regularity and shape of our poop and what that tells us about our body's detox status, our motivation to make necessary lifestyle changes.
Urine is another tracker that provides real time data that can be used to guide our lifestyle choices. So this week I welcome Mira typhoon, the co-founder and CEO of Viv. in 2018, mid eye was named one of the top 10 CEOs in healthcare by the international forum of advancements in healthcare. She graduated from Stanford, postgraduate programs, specializing in go-to market strategies, as well as diet and gene expression.
She is a biomolecular engineer. Now I hope that you enjoy my conversation with Mariah. MI I welcome to the vitally U podcast. It's just such a pleasure to have you, and I'm really excited to get into what is this urine test that people can do in the privacy of their homes. Hi,
[00:02:47] Miray Tayfun: Dana, it's great to be here.
And I guess you're talking about Viv, right? Yes. Talking about VBO. Yes. Yeah. So as you try yourself, uh, vivo is, uh, basically a health and wellness tracker that allows customers to engage with their body data and understand to basically how their daily habits affecting their body, like food choices, sleep patterns, et cetera.
So vivo is a urine test that you can pee on it. We say pee on it. and then you will be just waiting 90 seconds and scan it with your view application. Instantly you can get your results such as your calcium intake, magnesium intake, som intake, vitamin C intake, hydration levels, pH keytones. If you're into, you know, low car diets and protein levels, and there's a couple of more actually, and you can integrate your variable devices.
Yes. And oxidative
[00:03:41] Dana Frost: stress, which I found really fascinating that that was included.
[00:03:46] Miray Tayfun: Yes. Uh, we track one metric for oxidative stress at the moment. It's, uh, MDA melon, ALD height. Maybe you heard it before. It's a free, radical that can be seen in urine. We track oxidative stress too. I guess I can share this in time.
We will also allow you to add your postal code. So. Because as you know, our environment and the neighborhood we living also affects ative stress a lot. Yes. So yeah, more futures are coming, but basically it's a hot record just like your apple watch or your ING, but instead of wearing it, you are urinating on it.
And instead of your steps and sleep and heart rate, you can track the wide range of biometrics that, uh, allows you to basically mirror your. Yes. About your daily habits and your life habits, how it's affecting your overall health amounts. Yes.
[00:04:33] Dana Frost: So Mira, before we get into the specifics of it, that was such a beautiful overview.
I'm really curious. How did you, you're one of the founders of this company. What is your path? What's the story of founding this, um, health
[00:04:48] Miray Tayfun: tracker? It's such a funny story, cuz uh, when I met with urine test, it was. 11 years ago, if I'm not wrong, 11 years, I was, I was still studying bioengineering and I was working in this hospital in the laboratory and they gave me this task of dipping urine dip sticks, urine test sticks to urine and put it to optical reader.
I hated it cuz urine, even in our, like in our RND, we always make this joke like urine smell might smell really heavy. So I hated it. I hated urine tests. I said, I don't wanna see them ever again. And years pass. And I, as a bioengineer, I deep dive into biosensor area and we were developing mobile diagnostic devices for cattles in the farms.
So basical. Infectious diseases like Brella, salmonella. We were trying to stop the spreads before it's too late. And while you're doing that, I reconnected with rapid tests through keto tests. Cuz I tried to do this keto diet for myself. It was like six years ago or so. And when I saw them like it, it just like a light bulb, you know, comes and said, okay, there are so many amazing sensors already available at the market, but first people.
Don't know about them. Second, if people buys and use them, they have to basically create a meaning from the data, which is so hard for everyday users. So we thought like the question came like, Hey, can we actually get an accurate reading as optical readers with a mobile phone camera? And by that time, iPhone seven, six are coming.
So mobile phone cameras were much developed compared to what it was years ago. and our first prototype was you were taking a picture of the urine test, emailing it to us and your results were coming. So it was purely manual and it was an idea. But. Looking back and where we are, obviously our vision expanded a lot as we grew into market.
Cuz we saw that, okay, there are so many trackers, but majority of them are just for superficial data. Like your steps, heart rate, except like from out of skin data and some of the tests, lab tests, like, you know, uh, I don't wanna drop names like 23, me volume. Like there are so many amazing technologies lab.
Available to consumers, but they're so expensive and take so much time. So we wanted to bring the best of both worlds, like ease of use of variables and, uh, complex data analysis of lab tests into customer's home. That was the end goal. And we came to a point that now we are integrating variables. We are enhancing the user experiences and service.
Introduce personalized supplements. So obviously where it started, like hating urine test strips to where it's come, I'm in love with urine test strips. It's such an amazing transition for me.
[00:07:36] Dana Frost: Yeah, it is really fascinating. Mean I, as you know, I purchased a couple of strips to try before I had you as a guest, cuz I wanted to experience it.
And as a functional nutrition practitioner, I am familiar with urine test. And can you for our listeners just let them know. What is it when you. When you're looking at the data that comes from the urine, what is it telling the individual? Because it's different than if you're looking at blood labs. So what's the information that they're gaining from that.
[00:08:09] Miray Tayfun: That's such a great question, cuz true blood test. You can get so much more information such as. Let's talk about, for example, calcium, I wanna start with calcium just because it's such an important nutrient and 70% of the Americans are not getting enough daily. And as you know, it results as one in four women and one in 20 men ends up becoming.
as your process after 8 65. So if you go into a lab test, yes, you can get important data such as your deficiencies with V though. I think what is the, what is the interesting part is, but by the way, we don't just read your calcium data and say, say, visualize it for you. We have complex calculations with your creating in levels in urine.
So it is highlighting a level of intake. Based on your results. Not everybody has the same calcium level in urine might not be, uh, not getting enough. That's maybe a background information. So with VU, we are tracking calcium through calculations and it gives a score to you and your basically calcium amount in your urine to reflect you.
How much are you doing? Like how much are you taking daily? Same for white, as you know, cuz. Extract, extra vitamin C from our body. And same for, uh, magnesium. There are complex calculations between metrics to highlight you, how are you doing in terms of daily intake? In terms of hydration, hydration is one of the most interesting metrics.
It can change hour to hour. If you take 10 tests a day, you can get different results. Obviously you can optimize it to be more consistent, but when you wake up, for example, And if you didn't have a good glass of water at night, uh, before you sleep, you will probably see yourself as dehydrated. After a couple of glass of water, you can see self hydrated.
So it, it changes, I guess, hourly basis, just like our body's hydration levels. And another important metric is sodium. I think like what we look is there, obviously you look literally sodium in your urine through again, calculations through creating levels to highlight how much are you taking daily? And.
If this is enough for you, and if you don't have it daily, what kind of symptoms? Not symptoms, but what kind of problems you might face? Like, will you be feeling tired? Will you be struggling to focus on a topic, et cetera? So it just doesn't give the data, but it also gives. What does it mean? And how can I improve it?
And because we use an affordable tool compared to other lab tests, you can continuously track, play with yourself and your diet and see the changes yourself. Yeah.
[00:10:45] Dana Frost: It's very interactive. And that's one of the things I, I appreciated about it is that you're not just spitting data at someone you're giving them context.
What does this mean for you? Do you feel this way? I think one of the recommendation yesterday, because the, my acidity was high, it wasn't high, but it was just a little bit elevated was go eat some green beans. You know, so what I really like about it is that you're giving people context and you might try this, or, um, my vitamin C, I know that I have suboptimal vitamin C synthesis, and I do take vitamin C, but I had, I hadn't taken it for about a week and it came low in both urine tests that I took.
And I thought that was really interesting. So what did I do? I took my vitamin C
[00:11:34] Miray Tayfun: this morning. Oh, that's amazing. That's that's amazing. Yeah. When
[00:11:37] Dana Frost: we have these, why do we track, what is the why behind this information? What is the motivation for someone to use this? Really? The body is so intelligent and your body has so much information to deliver so that we collaborate our choices, collaborate with what the body actually needs in real time.
And this is a, this is a, a marker. VU is a marker that provides real time information. So we know right from, I want people to be really clear. The urine lab test is showing you what the body is getting rid of. right. So, you know, I think that's important to know it's not, we're not looking at what's in the blood work, but it, what is the body excreting?
We know that the body will excrete excess vitamin C. We know the body will excrete, excess magnesium. And so you can see those things coming out in the urine and, and that's important because at least for the listeners on this show, they want to feel younger while growing older. The conventional mindset in the us, at least in north America, the conventional mindset is we track labs and we look at them for a disease.
We look at them and we, you know, they become important when we actually have this diagnosis. If we really want to feel younger, while growing older, we need to be 10, 20 years ahead of the disease so that we avoid it. Complet. That's so true. Yeah. This is why I really like health trackers because it gives you the data that you need to impact the choices you make on a daily basis.
I don't know if I would've taken the vitamin C this morning. I go in phases of taking it. If I know I've been exposed to something or I make sure I try to take it once a week, but that was real time information. That I had that. Oh, I'm not on my vitamin C game. The other really interesting thing, Mariah that came out of mind was low sodium.
And you too. Yeah, me too. Yeah. I heard you actually on another podcast talking about this. I can't fix it. Yeah. Oh, you can't. Well, I'm gonna see if I can. I mean, I have beautiful. Mineral, you know, beautiful salts, you know, real salts that are coming from the earth. And I cook all my own food and I don't eat processed food.
So I'm not naturally exposed to a lot of sodium and that both of those, you know, urine samples showed me, I need to increase the, the sodium and, and I can do that, but I wouldn't have known that in real time. I, I would not have known that. So it was this interesting. Data point that actually is going to impact my choices.
[00:14:27] Miray Tayfun: Yeah. Like that is the beauty. My solid dream for vivo is if we can create a relationship between you and sodium, I think vivo is successful. That is so important. Just like if apple watch could create a relationship between activity and yourself and a. And in terms of science, I'd like to highlight that this product and metrics we track are not based on vivo scientific findings, but scientific world already, uh, proved multiple times urinary magnesium level correlates with blood serum magnesium level around 70%.
Uh, yes, we cannot see deficiencies a hundred percent, but daily intake and daily intake. Low numbers results in deficiencies. That is so critical, I think, to highlight and you can go actually find all of this data in our website in block part, under every parameter, the scientific references have the other articles and other scientists correlated already urine data with 24 urine R collection with spot urine analysis to blood serum data.
So there is so many research there, but I also believe we will contribute to this area a. With data in time. And so, okay. You're right. Like if you're cooking yourself, I think we have this fact that we have to unlearn, like sodium is bad, so is bad. Don't so much salt. Don't put so much salt. It's been told so many times it's the habits now like avoiding salt for healthier wear people, at least.
And if you're cooking at home, Obviously in a restaurant it's so hard to avoid, but at if you're cooking at home, if you're always trying to put less, better than optimal, right? We are not thinking the taste. We are thinking the health when we are putting salt and after I deep dived, and especially if you're an active person sweating a lot for, I sweat a lot, even though if I'm not moving.
And if you're urinating a lot, et cetera, to salt that you're losing, you're always replacing it with water. Which doesn't make sense, right? like on paper. So I, after I realize that fact, and when I'm aware I'm doing better, but sometimes I still see it low, which is, I think I have so much, again, I still have struggle with some metrics.
Y M C for example. Perfect. Like I, I created that link with Y M C. I created that link with hydration when I got COVID. We were just launching BVO 2.0, which are including, uh, new metrics are sodium YTC magnesium, calcium, and oxidative stress. So we didn't have these data before and after we launched. I got COVID.
It was like CS times the consumer electronics job in Las Vegas. I had a horrible five days drinking, tired, always pitching to new customers. So I was exhausted mentally and physically. I got COVID and I took a test. My first we would. 2.0 test. And you should have seen, my magnesium was low. My sodium was low.
Calcium was low, vitamin C was low. And in that moment I was enlightened because before these data sets were in my mind, I actually never like I was taking magnesium supplements, but I never like thought that it was that important. And once you try to fill those, uh, I will. Tanks. You started to see difference.
Sleep improves dramatically. Period. Cramps goes away when you place magnesium. Obviously if you have a chronic condition, it can be more complex, but if you are overall healthy, nutrients are like making wonders. And this is just a short term part though. Long term, they're linked to so many chronic diseases from bone diseases, neurological disorders, heart disease, diabetes.
All these metrics we talked about somehow are affecting obviously with, uh, horrible contribution of bad lifestyle are resulting as chronic diseases.
[00:18:15] Dana Frost: But I that's so true. And thank you for just highlighting some of those things. I think that de tracking it's really not just for the biohackers it's for real people who want to have dominion over their future health outcomes.
And I'm just really intrigued by VU. And the information I can tell you. Another thing that I discovered on mine was this morning, there was high calcium. And then what I want people to know how, you know, the information, the understanding that then the note from the app was, you know, think about your vitamin D intake.
Do you have too much vitamin D intake and. I do take vitamin D and I am, I'm now getting it summer in the Northern hemisphere. I'm getting a lot of sunshine. And so that sun and I, I tend to not wear sun blockers because I actually want the sun on my skin. I want my liver to synthesize its own vitamin D.
And so that was like, oh, okay. You know, there are. The, the tips that you provide really do make that mind body connection, which is really what we need is, you know, as I said earlier, to be in collaboration with what the body needs and the body is always talking to us, it's giving us information and this is the information we are getting from what it's getting rid of.
What's in the urine that we are extracting and. What's the, you know, what's the information we can pull from that. I think that that's really interesting. And these new, the new metrics that you added, it they're really quite significant MI eye in terms of health outcomes. Um, I was really surprised to see a measure for oxidative stress, which is.
Really important to be able to think about that. And you know, it's, for many times, it's hard in real time for a person to have a touch point with what's my oxidative stress. And, and so that is a touch point. Can you speak into that metric? How you're me looking at oxidative stress.
[00:20:28] Miray Tayfun: What we saw as a pattern.
And we did some surveys when you're sick. When I say sick, like medically sick UTIs. When I got COVID, for example, as an example, when you have other. Serious chronic problems, VC oxidative stress marker, MDA more, which is interesting, uh, for healthy people who are smoking VSO in articles. It's it might be visible for MDA specifically in urine.
Uh, but sickness diseases are also affecting, I guess, in that. Status of the body. It happens basically body. Maybe don't have time to your immune system have don't have time to reduce them or your antioxidant levels are low. That's why your immunity was leak. And that's why you got sick a sector. These are ITing all linked.
MD is a good metric again, though. I always believe that VU also should add more into oxidative stress. We are actually working on a second. Marker. That we would like to introduce inside the test for two marker check for oxidative stress plus postal code, which is important. Even exercise data can highlight so much also, I think right now it's not that directly linked as you as a consumer.
It's so hard to make the links between the metrics. I think that's a problem cause you have a connection with sodium now, but they have a connection between sodium and magnesium and how they changed together based. Your habits. I think that's the second step because oxidative stress should be working closely with other antioxidants as well.
Like vitamin CX, cetera, um, for against free radicals. Uh, yeah, this is the summary. I can say again, in our oxidative stress blog post in our website, you can find all the references based on what we are measuring in more detail, cuz I'm a buyer engineer, but you. I'm starting to forget some things, but our wellness team prepared amazing articles.
If you wanna deep dive into melon, Al height and why it's in urine and even in, from your Viv results, you will be seeing some explanations about yeah, why it's there? How can you prevent it, et cetera. Yeah. That's
[00:22:30] Dana Frost: really interesting. And let's look at the pH. Marker. Mine was a little bit on the acidic side.
Not, not heavy, but speak into that, cuz that is one of the urine markers that people are most familiar with. Mm-hmm
[00:22:45] Miray Tayfun: yeah, I quit coffee, but I restarted. So right now I know like another thing about VU is I sometimes can see my results. And pH, I think level of level of my familiarity with pH and hydration, cuz I've been taking those tests same for Teton for over over three years.
Now I can see how everything affects pH hydration and keytones and pH specifically. Obviously dietary acid load, what we are trying to highlight cause your P so urinary pH can be acidic or alkaline due to a chronic disease too. And this is, that's not what we are interested in. We are trying to figure out how your diet and acid load of your diet is affecting your urinary pH results due to your body.
Blood basically has to stay in the same pH your body has to get rid of that acid acidic load. So urine is where it goes and coffee, alcohol Coca-Cola, all those things are actually yes. Pushing you to death, processed meats, processed meat, also also overeating of meat, like. Other protein sources. So it may be if you have a tube acidic, pH, and if you're eating so much meat, you can replace it with more plant-based proteins.
That would be a good starting point. If you're doing at all the other ones. Obviously, if you ever have a restricted diet, you will be seeing pH acidic all the time. Let's say you're doing a hardcore carnivore. Or Tito you would be seeing always acidic and which is, which might be fine for you, but being on top of it is also like acidic.
pH is that pH is not a a hundred percent true statement. It it's all about trying to understand where are you sitting based on what you did.
[00:24:28] Dana Frost: Exactly. It's not, we're not looking at path. .
[00:24:33] Miray Tayfun: Yeah. And some, some of our vegan, vegetarian customers, we have a lot of them. They they're always seeing on the alkaline side, uh, their urinary pH.
Yeah. Mm-hmm yeah. That's really interesting. They're eating clean. Mm-hmm
[00:24:44] Dana Frost: mm-hmm and, okay. So what would be the reason someone would want to say, I am going to. Start using VU. I'm going to, you know, dive in and start using it. I know you have a code for the community. Vital 30 is a 30% discount code, which is super generous.
And I know when I purchased my first strips, I had a code and I really appreciated that. And. I'm going all in. I'm gonna buy a year supply because
[00:25:15] Miray Tayfun: I'll send you, don't worry. Don't buy, I'll send you.
[00:25:18] Dana Frost: it's really valuable information that can make a difference. And so I'm really fascinated by this. I'm gonna be encouraging my clients to start this tracker.
I, let me just say diabetes is a factor in my ancestral health. And I had a health crisis in 2011 and I was pre-diabetic at that time. And that's when I got really serious about testing and getting familiar with my glucose numbers and I turned it around. I'm no longer pre-diabetic, you know, I've I was able to, to shift that, but that's the power of track.
Getting that information and it changes behavior. And so tell me, like, who do you see as your ideal, the ideal VU user?
[00:26:08] Miray Tayfun: anyone like I, when I say this sometimes, you know, we have, we are talking to investors and they're like, it cannot be anyone. Obviously it cannot be anyone, but like, cuz some people like might not wanna take that step, but I can give you a few scenarios easily.
Like if you are walking daily and sweating and if you never thought about your sodium. You should be taking a Viv test or if you're taking any drugs, any drugs, I think you should be taking Viv test to see if you're hydrating. What, what yourself as well not to damage your organs, something again. So simple.
If you have a really, really bad diet, like, you know, your chocolates Coca-Cola bad, like fast food, et cetera. I think. Just pH metric can guide you to make better decisions like, uh, in a gamified way. So calcium, if you, if you gave birth, if you're planning to give birth, or if you're thinking you're not getting enough because you don't consume nuts or dairy, I think you should measure calcium.
For sure. Like in my opinion, anybody can benefit. Obviously there will be level of obstacles in terms of, for example, when Dana you solve your sodium levels. Made that link so fast, but for some people it will require more time understanding, maybe more reading inside the application to understand how will it affect your results or why it's happened.
And in Viv, I have to highlight this advice are coming for a reason because before we built vivo, we looked in every Elton wellness app out there, and none of them are. Going one step further than data, cuz it's hard. You need nutritionist, you need doctors. You need to create all these scenarios to cover all of your customers, to give them advice.
Even now we are getting so many feedback. I don't feel personalized and we are improving it every day. Every day. It is hard, but it is vital cuz everyday user won't understand what their data means. Even if it's simple, as your hydration levels is low, it might. Convert into daily habits. So that is important.
And the second part of, uh, Viv that is so important, I think is that vivo is motivating. At least we are trying to be, cause some of the apps, for example, I have my aura and I, I have a secret. I don't wear it when I'm sleeping after 12, because like, or after 2:00 AM, cuz I don't wanna see it the next day.
Cause it's depressing. So. I don't want VU to be ever go to that direction. It should always be moderating. It should always be encouraging, even though like, my results are sometimes back too. People think they thought sometimes tell me, show your app. Is it all 10? No, I'm a human . Of course. It's not all 10.
It's just a journey. It's not about. The what action you take. It's small daily habits that takes you there. That's why it's beautiful. It's a journey like taking care of your body, not just your body, but your mental wellbeing, your physical wellbeing, even your financial wellbeing, their journeys that are part of our everyday lives.
If they don't become small habits, we won't see much benefit or success in any areas. Yeah, I think that's just
[00:29:19] Dana Frost: such those, those are really wise words MI and you know, for me, when I, if I, you know, go to the balcony level, I think it's for the curious mind, curious minded, those who are curious, I love the examples that you gave.
I think those are really, you know, just people can relate to those three scenarios. And if you are curious about your health and what is happening in your body, and you want to determine outcomes. I, I said this earlier have dominion over your health. This is a great tracker. It is doing something that is very different than any of the other health trackers.
[00:30:02] Miray Tayfun: Well, thank you so much and very intending to introduce more. Maybe not just even you're in there other. Rapid tests that hasn't been tapped in the market, but with COVID everything changed and now rapid tests are not enemies to consumer or regulative agencies. So I believe. Collaborating with those agencies.
We can introduce more rapid tests for at home. And I hope people will be leading the way for other companies as well. And it it's super exciting and I'm, I'm so happy to hear your feedback, cuz whenever I do these podcasts, hearing the host feedback is the best way to understand. Okay. Like you really use it and you enjoyed it and it's not just like our customers, but anybody who can try.
From outside of the VBO ecosystem can also engage with that. Data can also learn something from the data at the end of the day. It's about, again, I think Wes success is not be defined by how many people track themselves, but how many people developed an awareness? On their body data that they can track with VBO
[00:31:05] Dana Frost: mm-hmm yes.
And I want to, before we end, I want to mention that my experience with urine trackers, I was at one point it's been a couple years, I was wanting to know more about pH balance in the urine and keytones, and I wasn't going for a KEYone diet, but I was, I just had this curiosity. And so I bought the strips and.
They were tiny. It like, they were so tiny, you know, urinating I'm like peeing on my fingers and it was like, I had to look at the table of pH and acid and I just found it so frustrating that I'm like this, no, this isn't for me. What I love about VU is that actually the strip is quite large. There's a little place on one side that clearly is designed for you to hold it.
I really like that. And you're not gonna pee on yourself when you're urinating trying to take your sample. What I did wanna tell users, cuz I had a, an error. My first try. I just didn't understand. There are very clear instructions on the app. I just got a little bit confused about the scanning. So it shows you, you take your urine sample, you start the timer on the app for 90 seconds, and it does all that for you.
All you gotta do is just. You know, push the timer and, you know, you put your, the strip on a white background and it's going to alert you after 90 seconds to scan with your phone camera, to scan the urine strip. And it actually gives you the lines around it. I think yellow. And then green is what you want.
Well, it also says take a photo. And I, I kind of Gotner, I think I was just really nervous the first time and , and I, and I wasn't quite register. I wasn't registering everything, the yellow line, the green line, and I just took a photo. I think that's why I did receive an error. And, and then I went back and I read everything, but I just want the users to know when you're doing your first test, do not be nervous.
Be really patient. The app will work for you. All you have to do is put your phone over the strip and you're gonna watch for the green lines to start appearing. And then it tells you above that. It starts telling you that it's scanning and you've got the green bar that will go 0%, 30%, you know, 60. And then, and then all of a sudden it's scanned and it's like, comprehending your data.
I wanted to share that because I don't want you to have the error that I had. And, and then once it's just really like magic, it complicate everything, image processing. Yes. Yeah. Image processing. And then, and then you get this feedback and. We all like, like the human likes feedback and. I love that you said don't be upset about if your feedback, if you feel like you've got a, there's no bad or good outcome, I guess there's a favorable outcome.
If you've got, you know, if you're on the, you know, you're doing great, you're 10 out of 10 or whatever, take it in. This is what I tell my coaching clients. It's all just information that you get to learn from. And so it's this opportunity to become better acquainted with what's happening in real time with your body.
That is just, you know, truly. I'm just super intrigued. I, I really am intrigued. I'm very excited to start sharing this with people.
[00:34:31] Miray Tayfun: I'm sorry for your audience. If you have any problems with testing, if it fails or something, write. Immediately, we will be resending you new tests, cuz it might happen from the anxiety of taking a test at home.
But after first time, all I hear is like after first time it becomes so easy.
[00:34:52] Dana Frost: absolutely. And that was my experience. Okay. So I did this, you know, this is practical. I wanna ask you something else. May I for our listeners because I took my first test in the afternoon and because I do my glucose in the morning, I was like, let's do.
You know, let's do the morning and see what, you know, what happens there. And it was a little bit different in the morning. So is there, do you, what are your recommendations about time of day? Is it consistency? How often are you recommending people to, to take the urine
[00:35:23] Miray Tayfun: sample? Uh, Okay, there is this like an answer that I should be giving and I an answer I should, I wanna give, uh, the answer I should be giving is obviously morning, urine is preferred and we recommend once a week testing, but in my personal experience and with so many customers that I talked is that obviously in morning, you're in, you might see her dehydrated.
You might see keytones. For example, but calcium, magnesium, white T C would be much more clearer at least in terms of your previous day. But for example, if you're doing a Chito diet, You can take your test at night because what you wanna see that day's efficiency of keto diet, right? Or if you wanna see how, how you're doing in terms of hydration after, I don't know, walk round gym session, you can do it right after and right before it's what I'm trying to say is what you're looking for.
I think the term, right time you should be taking. And the second is the frequency. We have customers who takes more than 30 tests a month. And we have customers who takes a test once and every two months, I think everybody in time will, there will find their pattern. We recommend once a week. And I think that is sufficient data.
I personally test myself once and every two days or once every day, depending on the season, what I'm trying to figure out how my life is changing, what I'm eating. If I'm flying, everything affects for me. So try to find. Try to follow the guidelines morning test and once a week. But after that, if you are curious on anything, you can change your schedule.
Yeah.
[00:37:00] Dana Frost: I think that's great advice. And it sounds like vivo is super customer oriented. If somebody is on a special diet or has a. You know, really wants to figure out for themselves, when is the best time they could always contact your customer service and, you know, have a chat about what's the best rhythm for them.
But I always think in tracking, I know this was true for me in terms of glucose tracking. Initially, I, I did it more often because I wanted that intimacy to understand what's happening in real time. And I feel like with this, with vivo, for myself, I'm gonna do it more often. Initially, and then I will move to the once a week, you know, just because I want more data points right away because I'm, you know, tracking and understanding.
So I think it sounds like there are lots of options and it really just depends upon each. Person's why they're taking it. What, what, what do they want to gain from it?
[00:37:56] Miray Tayfun: And you'll see if you actually collect more data points in time. Again, you'll see that in time, you will be able to predict your results before even you take your test, cuz once you have your lifestyle and that data matched a lot in your life, you will be able to predict, okay, how many glass of water I drink this much when I have this much water, normally I'm dehydrated.
So I'm probably dehydrate. Like you can make that met your brain is capable. If you provide it to.
[00:38:27] Dana Frost: Yes, that is so true. And I will just bring this up mid I, because I, I am a heart math facilitator. I don't know if you're familiar with heart math. Um, it's an Institute, a research Institute in California, and they're looking at heart rate variability and the impact on the nervous system, the interplay between heart rate variability and the nervous system and their breathing.
Techniques that will moderate your heart rate variability and thus bring you into coherence and improve your resilience. So I re when I, I have a pacemaker and that's the reason I was introduced to heart math. And when I first started using their tech technology and their trackers, their heart rate, variability trackers, and I was disconnected from.
That aspect, that data point, my heart rate, variability, my, you know, how the breath impacts it and through tracking. It's automatic. I don't need, I don't really even need to track it. I know it. I feel it internally. And that's what happens for us when we have something that we can track. And we really dedicate ourselves to getting the data and understanding what it means, which VU gives you that understanding it gives you the application, the comprehension.
Then over time you have this intimacy. Where, you know, oh, I need this right now. I, my body is talking to me. It needs this right now. So I think it's just a, really a fabulous health tracker for everyone to enjoy mid I, I have a question for you. We end the show by asking the guests. What does feeling younger while growing older mean to you?
[00:40:11] Miray Tayfun: Hmm, great question. Uh, sorry. I didn't have a time to think, but briefly, I guess it's two things. If I'm enjoying everything, like live the air that I'm reading the water that I'm drinking. I think that means that's that's youth for me, like that's. So you can reach that in any stage of your life. And second is Vi's motto Vi's slogan.
Listen to your buddy's voice. Somehow became mine in time. If I'm still listening to my buddy's voice, I think I'll be there, cuz it already tells me majority of the things. And if I keep listening, I think I'll be feeling young when I'm 85. yeah.
[00:40:59] Dana Frost: I, I got goosebumps while you were sharing. And so I think that is, um, what you shared rings true for me.
And you are the age. We talked about this earlier, but me, I is the age of my oldest daughter and I really, what I've seen with this idea of feeling younger while growing older, it's not only for people who are. My age, you know, 56 and older, or, you know, in their forties, it's really for everyone. And you, what you've said is that demonstrates that, that it really is that feeling younger while growing older, it's something internally.
It's a feeling state. It's not necessarily physical. It gets to be, it can be physical because our choices are gonna impact. If we grow older and we are inflamed and we are in pain and we don't, our energy is lacking. It's really hard to get that spark inside, which is one of the reasons I, again, really appreciate health trackers.
Yeah, MI I thank you so much for sharing the VU story and sharing, um, just giving us some insights on it. Thank you so much for the vital 30 code where everyone can go and enjoy and purchase what I purchased. I think it was like a four pack or a five pack and, you know, test it, see how is it for you? Is this something like, for me, I did that and I'm like, oh yes, this is for me.
So thank you for your generosity. I really appreciate
[00:42:33] Miray Tayfun: it. Thank you. Thank you. You can always go VI vv.io, vi.io to learn more and wait til 30 is the code and thank your data. It was such a pleasure. I feel like really listened and I could share like you're such an open person. It was amazing. Thank you so much.
Thank
[00:42:51] Dana Frost: you. Oh, well, thank you so much. Thank you everybody. Thank you for joining me on the vitally U podcast. Don't forget to take advantage of Viva's discount gift use code vital 30 for 30% off your first purchase. I wasn't sure about the technology on my first order. So I ordered the entry pack of four.
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